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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11 at 4:15 p.m.
Thread: 2D1C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SirRobo</b></div><div>Robertsons on a rookie contract so you’re getting value there too. Plus he’s under team control for longer. Marcus Johansson should be demoted to the fourth line, then you plug your young skilled tenacious winger into your top 6 and add more fire power to your offence. Robertsons ceiling could be a ppg.</div></div>

This is the last year of his ELC so his cost will be going up. The $14.74 million in dead cap extends beyond this season into next season. If we ship out Middleton, we're going to have to find someone else to fill his 20 minutes per night which is likely going to be a lot more expensive than $2.45 million. We have $11 million to work with and only 16 players signed for next season. If Spurgeon isn't quite ready for the start of the season, that makes the money even tighter.

Trading Middleton for Robertson also takes out a defenseman with size (which we lack) for an undersized forward (which we have a bunch of right now). Actually, depending on how you look at it, Robertson would be the 2nd or 3rd smallest player on the team. Between Kaprizov, Rossi, and Zuccarello, we already have enough 5'10" or under forwards in the top 6. If history is anything to go by, making 2/3 of the top 6 be that small isn't exactly a recipe for success, especially since we are also losing size on the back end in the deal.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11 at 9:43 a.m.
Thread: Be Bold y
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>I was so excited to see what Minnesota thought of this trade they must not be awake yet, can’t see you getting their first, but leads accept don’t even need to retain on him</div></div>

Personally, I don't see the appeal of Mittelstadt especially if he wants a Boldy level contract next season. Sure, this trade would free up some money to be able to afford that, but we have other areas we could better use that cap space than dumping it into Mittelstadt. We're already adding potential NHL centers in Khusnutdinov (this spring) and Yurov (either this summer or next) so Mittelstadt becomes a redundant asset, and an expensive one at that, real quick.

Also, Spurgeon would block this with his NMC and Foligno might shut it down too, based on the fact that he just signed a 4 year extension here. I know Moose was born there and spent the first part of his career there, but if he wanted to go back to Buffalo, he could have waited until this summer and signed there instead of signing an extension in Minnesota. Either way, the deal probably dies there.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11 at 9:19 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31 at 7:54 a.m.
Thread: Post Parise Signing Upgrades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>"So it's an absolute braindead take to sit here and pretend that the Wild have to get bent over by the Avs or anyone else and take whatever they can get because of a stupid reason like "Fleury has a NMC and controls where he wants to go". He doesn't, the Wild still control where he goes"

MAF has a 2.95 gaa and a .897s%. Wild also traded Bogosian for a 7th? Addison for a 5th? Yeah BRAINDEAD take to think the WILD would take a LATE ROUND PICK for a diminishing talent especially one that has been playing like hot trash. Real question is WTF would the Avs want him. If a team is willing to give you positive value you should accept. the most idiotic take is "Fleury has more value to the Wild franchise for 2 months- on-ice, in the locker room, fan sentiment and good will, merchandise sales, etc- than a 5th rounder who turns into nothing would" thats laughable. Yeah its been a real wining culture with him there huh? Really been a game changer while helping Gustavsson improve his game.... hes never looked better. what an intelligent take... so smart. you should keep him around and get nothing for him lol what a locker room guy</div></div>

Couple things.

First, we traded for Bogo so you have that completely wrong. In the Addison deal, we also got a player back and cap space we desperately needed before Spurgeon went on LTIR. So you're wrong there too. Also, if we waited on trading Addison until later in the season when trade values inflate, we would have gotten a better return. We valued getting someone with a bit of an attitude problem that was eating up valuable cap space out of the room more than we valued holding out for a higher pick.

Second, when we traded for Flower 2 years ago, his GAA was the same and his save percentage was only 1% better (aka about 1 goal every 3 games). There were multiple teams offering a 2nd for him. He should get more than a 5th. Ben Meyers just evens out the contracts (which isn't a concern on either side right now). He doesn't provide any added value to the deal. The Minnesota connection means nothing.