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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25 at 12:03 p.m.
Thread: Trying to make something out of nothing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>LMAO, hits don't equate to physicality, if they did then Caufield is more physical than either Savard or Liljegren. You are right though Liljegren is a better skater and passer and is younger but so is Mete and look where he is now. Liljegren isn't a better D man than Savard, he isn't better than Mete, no way he is better than Savard</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DealFinder67</b></div><div>What is Lily’s ceiling? Is he a shut down guy? He is average size, not physical, not many points. What is he going to blossom into? For me, on a good team he will be a bottom pair guy his whole career</div></div>

Since we are on CapFriendly lets use their scouting as a guide. Lilly is ranked 80 P2 and Savard 75 P3 Lily is ranked with a higher celling and high ranked among his peers in that group.

When you take into account ALL factors Lily is the better option.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23 at 10:22 p.m.
Thread: Whats the cost of
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Victor24</b></div><div>I don't think they would want to either but that's what Guentzel would cost. There have been VERY few players of his skill available at the trade deadline over the years.

I can't honestly think of a player as good as Guentzel who was a rental being traded at the deadline since Hossa. He cost the Pens their best prospect (ranked in the 30s at the time), two cheap middle 6 forwards, and a 1st.

I think Guentzel would go for:
1st + NHL player (for salary and replacement) + top 30 prospect

Tor doesn't have a top 30 prospect so they would have to give up a former top 30 (Knies) or two current top 60 (Miten and Cowan).

I could be proven wrong but that's how I see it.</div></div>

That was a long time ago and at the end of the day they gave up a 1st and a prospect. Colby Armstrong and Eric Christensen did not add much value to the deal. One thing you don't take into consideration is that Dubas knows the Leaf's prospects well and might covet players that might not be highly rated.

At the end of the day most GMs make their biggest mistakes at the trade deadline.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23 at 8:36 p.m.
Thread: Whats the cost of
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Victor24</b></div><div>Bertuzzi and Domi make sense in terms of Pit getting an NHL player to plug into Guentzel's spot. Also salary balance.

I'm not trying to be negative or disparage you. Based on the calibre of player and the reports of what he would fetch, my suggestions would fit the bill.

I think a 1st + Solid Prospect is light. Low 1st + NHL player + Blue Chip (can't miss / highly ranked) prospect.

Since Tor doesn't have a prospect ranked higher than 50ish, they would need to include both of their top 100 prospects. Or Knies.

I don't think Tor would pay that.</div></div>

The reason I say Bertuzzi and Domi don't make sense is because the are both UFAs. Getting an NHL player with term would make sense for the Pens.

I meant for it to read he's worth a 1st + Solid Prospect + (another pick prospect or RFA )

There would be no way they would give us Knies or Miten + Cowen for a rental
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22 at 9:55 p.m.
Thread: Whats the cost of
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Victor24</b></div><div>Guentzel is not a top 6 forward, he is one of the best forwards in the NHL. I can't think of a player of his calibre being traded in season since Hossa.</div></div>

He's a pending UFA on a non playoff team. if he's not going to be resigned then he needs to be moved.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Victor24</b></div><div>A Tor trade for Guentzel would look like:
Knies + Bertuzzi / Domi + 1st
Or
Minten + Cowan + Bertuzzi / Domi + 1st
(That is Bertuzzi or Domi, not both)

Both of which are more than Tor would want to pay, which is why I don't see it.</div></div>

So pending UFAs don't bring back players like Bertuzzi or Domi and it would make no sense as both are pending UFAs themselves.

With that said the return would be a 1st + Solid Prospect +

I agree my trade is light but that's why the title is "what's the cost of"
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22 at 10:55 a.m.
Thread: Whats the cost of
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bc44</b></div><div>I think Calgary would be looking for a little more than what they got for Zadorov (3rd and cond5th) in a possible Tanev trade. Reports are Calgary would want 2nd to start with. Which seems about right. The Leafs dont have a 2nd so maybe a prospect Calgary covets to start.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EvanW711</b></div><div>I'd be happy with Niemela + 5th and hopefully Abruzzese or 3rd</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>That's just the Leafs biased media talking about a 2nd. The real cost is a 1st+ or a player/prospect worth a 1st that the Flames can use. Minten or Knies is about it and I'm not sure Minten is worth a 1st (close though).</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Replace the 3rd and 5th with Toronto's 2024 1st and Calgary accepts.</div></div>


I agree the 2nd+ is the price for Tanev but since the Leaf's don't have one this deal gets them more than Zadorov

He's not worth a 1st, Knies or Minten.

Do I think they can get a first its possible but if it was offered they would have moved him already.