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Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 28, 2018 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread: Florida Panthers signed Troy Brouwer (1 Year / $850,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>True, and I'm not saying that won't happen. But I don't see the fact that the contract is one-way makes a big difference. So they are going to pay him $850,000 no matter what. If he is the 17th best forward in the organization, there is no reason why he should be on the NHL roster. I agree that coaches generally pull kids out when they make a couple bad mistakes, but that doesn't mean that Brouwer won't start in the AHL or the kids will be bad enough to get benched for Brouwer.

My point, though, was this was a good signing because you either get a good fourth line player in Brouwer, or you get organizational depth because you can send him to the minors and bring him back whenever you want.

Let's say Owen Tippett makes the team out of camp and has ten bad games in his own zone. Well, you probably want him to play a lot to learn and grow. Maybe he doesn't have anything left to prove offensively in the AHL. He obviously isn't up to par defensively for the NHL. You tell him go play in the AHL for a couple of weeks to work on your defensive game, while we bring up a guy we know can play in all three zones. Give the kid a couple games to correct some of his bad habits, bring him back up, and send the veteran back down. You can't afford to give away games to develop aspects of young players games. If you give Owen Tippett a month to correct his mistakes at the NHL level, you could end up missing the playoffs by one point again.

Just an example. Not trying to rag on Tippett or any of the young guys. It's a cut throat world in the NHL, and if you aren't ready, you need to keep your feet moving. If the Panthers have someone that can play a few games to help the kids learn and grow more, that's good. If he plays 76 games in the AHL this year, no big deal.

Look at Kevin Labanc of the Sharks last season. He had a bad couple of weeks. He went down the AHL, played a few games, and then came back up and tore up the rest of the season. He still has some things to work on, but the fact that he could take advantage of a lesser league for 8 games taught him some better habits, and now he will likely be a top 6 forward for the Sharks this season.</div></div>This example would work better if Tippett weren't still CHL-eligible. He gets 9 games to prove himself for Florida, and, if he doesn't, he's going back to Missisauga and may or may not play for Springfield at the tail end of the year.

I would argue they don't necessarily need to have their younger players start immediately with the Panthers. Springfield's been a crap team for the past couple of years, and re-vamping their farm system would probably help in terms of prospect development. Waiver eligibility's also an important consideration. Borgström and Malgin both still have waiver exemption and probably will start the year with Springfield. Tippett's likely playing with Missisauga, and Vatrano has a spot on the roster, methinks, on the 3rd line with McCann and McGinn. Next year, though, Haley, MacKenzie, McGinn, and Brouwer's contracts are all up, and the Panthers might promote more young players at that time.
Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 17, 2018 at 6:36 a.m.
Thread: Anaheim Ducks signed Ondrej Kase (3 Years / $2,600,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>So the kid has 5 goals and 15 points in his first season, and then 20 goals and 38 points in his second. He's 22. I think this is a great deal for the guy because he hasn't really proven he's a top six player (offensive stat wise), but will be, and could creep into the 25 goals, 50 point range for the next several years. You can argue this is overpaying because of his limited production, but it's really underpaying him because of what he should achieve the next two seasons.

Watch out, cause he could be in the Evander Kane money range next contract.</div></div>

I guess the Ducks are hoping he becomes a 7m player at the end of his contract. If I'm the Sharks and Kane is on his 7m X 7 contract, I'm more concerned that Kane becomes a 2.6m player.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 14, 2018 at 11:03 a.m.
Thread: Deal with Detroit. What do you think?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>I think you are undervaluing AA and you are trying to offload a contract you don't like. Braun isn't going anywhere. That is the best shutdown pair in the NHL.

I like the idea of AA with Couture and Hertl, and I think you could make a deal with Detroit work. First, stop it with Jensen. Second, pony up a prospect and a better long-term fit on D. Gambrell is fine, although he probably won't have as high of a ceiling as AA. Braun isn't a good fit in this deal. Joakim Ryan makes more sense from a Detroit perspective.</div></div>

First of all I like Braun and his contract. Second of all I thought they might want RHD that would be good on both ends of the ice since they have a lot LHDmen in their system so it was no for Joakim Ryan.
Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 14, 2018 at 5:45 a.m.
Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Brady Tkachuk (3 Years / $3,425,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>Why does everyone keep saying he is a lock to play in the NHL this season? The kid had 8 goals last year in college. EIGHT. I get he has other elements to his game, and I not doubting that he will be a good NHL player, but there is no reason to rush him to the NHL when this team is going to be dreadful.

Am I the only one who thinks it might be a good idea to NOT see him in the NHL in 2018-19? Let him tear it up in the OHL or AHL and then give him a spot on the top line when Stone leaves.

As someone who follows the NCAA college hockey scene closely, I don't see anything in his game that shouts "NHL Rookie of the Year" in 18-19.

I look at it, and I see Casey Mittelstadt might be a comparable, but he at least played his age 18-19 year in college, and scored 30 point in 34 games (Tkachuk had 31 in 40 games).

No offense, but it feels like you're asking Joshua Norris (19th overall in 2017 by San Jose) to come in and play in your middle six. That guy had eight goals last year, too, and NO ONE is talking about him playing in the AHL in 2018-19, let alone the NHL.

Or how about Montreal's Ryan Poehling, who had 14 goals and 31 points in 37 games at St. Cloud last year as a freshman. He's part of an organization that HAS NO CENETERMEN, and yet he still isn't an "NHL player."

(I know offensive numbers aren't everything).

Let the kid develop...</div></div>

He's only a "lock" to make the Sens b/c of how utterly depleted their roster is right now. Their bottom six is gonna look like that of a minor league team anyway. So why not throw him into the fire. That being said, I'd be shocked if he exceeded 10G and 20 points this season. His offensive skill set is nowhere near that of his brother's when he was a rookie w/ CGY.

I do believe it will backfire if they over-expose him to NHL competition too soon. He's clearly not ready given his lack of production at the NCAA level. Every move Dorion makes, or every move Melnyk makes Dorion make, ends up costing them. Just as I believe that selecting Brady ahead of Zadina will cost them.
Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 13, 2018 at 5:03 p.m.
Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Brady Tkachuk (3 Years / $3,425,000 AAV)
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<strong>MATTHEW TKACHUK PRE-DRAFT STATS</strong>
2014-2015 | USNTDP Juniors | USDP | 65gp | 38g | 57a | 95pts | <strong>1.46 PPG (points per game)</strong> | pre-draft season
2015-2016 | London Knights | OHL | 57gp | 30g | 77a | 107pts | <strong>1.88 PPG (points per game)</strong> | draft season

<strong>BRADY TKACHUK PRE-DRAFT STATS</strong>
2016-2017 | USNTDP Juniors | USDP | 61gp | 25g | 29a | 54pts | <strong>0.88 PPG (points per game)</strong> | pre-draft season
2017-2018 | Boston University | NCAA | 40gp | 8g | 23a | 31pts |<strong>0.78 PPG (points per game)</strong> | draft season

- YES....it's tough to compare statistics between different leagues....but 0.78 PPG in the NCAA does not even compare to 1.88 PPG in the OHL (at the same age).
- They also both played in the USDP at the same age and 0.88 PPG is not even in the same universe as 1.46 points per game.
- The PPG gap between the Tkachuks in the USDP is drastically larger than the gap between Auston Matthews and Matt Tkachuk in the USDP (at the same age).

<strong>If you expect Brady Tkachuk to post similar stats to Matthew Tkachuk in the NHL....you are in for BITTER DISAPPOINTMENT.</strong>

I'm just trying to state the truth and temper expectations....I'm not trying to bash Brady....and hopefully I'm wrong.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 13, 2018 at 2:09 p.m.
Thread: Trade suggestions for Seguin. Pacioretty and Panarin
There was a good conversation on the PDOcast between Craig Custance and the host and they were saying that the sharks would absolutely make sense to land Panarin as they’ve missed out on a couple big names recently. They also said which I’m in agreement with; the sharks don’t have very much in terms of futures that they can offer up especially with them not having a first. Columbus has also said that they would be looking at more of an immediate return rather than a package of future pieces so maybe that bodes a bit better for SJ. Personally I think that the Stastny deal at the deadline would have to be the starting point for any trade of this magnitude. That means a guaranteed first and a B list prospect as a return. Seguin and Panarin would command significantly more than Stastny but Pacioretty would be the closest to that although I could see a bit more being given for him as well. For a player of seguin or Panarin’s caliber I wouldn’t be surprised to see a player like Hertl or Meier traded with other pieces on each side of the deal.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2018 at 6:43 p.m.
Thread: SJ GM league
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>Where to begin...

#1 Vlasic is not going anywhere, let alone STRAIGHT UP for an overpaid, aging third liner. If you told me he was in the package to get a Panarin, sure. But even then, that likely doesn't work.

Also, what is the point of Bernier? He is a backup goalie, who is slightly better than Aaron Dell, who you just magically put on IR? Not sure how that one works.

Probably most importantly, how do you get the Coyotes 2108 1st rounder? That confuses me.

I get this is part of the game, but your moves are baffling.</div></div>

Omg lol. Those weren’t the actual moves. There was an expansion draft and I had another guy as a GM before me. Some guys were traded for and traded again and stuff like that. So yeah, the moves are garbage. The old guy actually let Vlasic go in the expansion draft believe or not. I smh at him. Anddd Dell isn’t supposed to be IR he as traded and I had to get rid of him but could t remember the details of the trade.
Also this is the year 2, and some of the assets from trades were lost to FA or whatever.
Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 1, 2018 at 2:21 p.m.
Thread: Winnipeg Jets signed Nicolas Petan (1 Year / $874,125 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>Lots of guys are great AHL players and can't make it to the NHL. Seth Griffith is an example. Chris Terry. Cory Conacher. How about this one for you: Brian O'Neill lead the AHL in scoring with 80 points in 71 games in 14-15, played 22 total NHL games, and is an average KHLer now.

AHL stats don't really tell you anything. Okay, if the kid can't play in the AHL, he won't be a NHLer. Doesn't always work the other way around.

The size is the defense. If he cleans that up, he should be able to play on the third line, maybe even a second line on a weaker team.</div></div>

Brian O'neill was 27 when he lead the league. Petan is 23, You cannot compare the two. Same can be said for Terry/Conacher/Griffith. Petan still has room for growth. Like I said many teams will take the chance.