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Forum: NHLApr. 4, 2018 at 6:53 p.m.
Thread: Taylor Hall Selfish
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HawksFan28</b></div><div>I just don't see it and if that is true then there is something wrong with Edmonton as a franchise. Like I said, Hall put up 50 points last season, New Jersey missed the playoffs and Edmonton didn't, now the roles are reversed and the trade is terrible?

Hall's not going to become a ppg player or close to it overnight.... He's not very consistent. He's a top 6 forward having a career year... The best part is the Oilers got a legitimate top 4 defenseman - in the deal - not some "bum"... Even if Taylor Hall did become a perennial ppg player that still wouldn't make this trade one of the "worst" when teams have acquired star players for junk that never even played in the NHL.

Besides, Adam Larsson was what the Oilers needed, the trade is hardly "bad" Larsson is 25, Hall is 26 so there is plenty of time to determine who won the trade but in the end IMO it will be "fair"..

This trade is far to early to say who won it.... Next season the Oilers could be in the playoffs and the Devils could be out... Heck, the Devils could still be out this year.</div></div>

Career PPG stats for "Top" wingers in the league:

Marchand - .765
Wheeler - .777
Kessel - .807
Benn - .889
Kane - 1.008
Ovechkin - 1.118

Hall - .898

Clearly he's up there among the elites ( I left out guys that have only played 2-3 years for reference, like Gaudreau, Laine, etc.). This isn't a flash in the pan. He just never got the recognition for being as good as he was on an awful Oilers team.
Forum: NHLMar. 13, 2018 at 9:51 p.m.
Thread: My Bold Playoff Predictions
Not to be the rampant Pens fan here... But a team that's 8-0 in playoff series over the last two years, and one of the hottest teams in the league since January, and you both have them getting knocked out in the first round (especially by Florida)?

Tampa Bay vs. Columbus (Tampa is 5)
Boston vs. Toronto (Boston in 7)
Washington vs. Philadelphia (Washington in 6)
Pittsburgh vs. New Jersey (Pittsburgh in 7)
Nashville vs. Anaheim (Nashville in 5)
Winnipeg vs. Minnesota (Winnipeg in 5)
Vegas vs. Dallas (Dallas in 7)
San Jose vs. Los Angeles (San Jose in 7)

Tampa vs. Boston (Boston in 7)
Washington vs. Pittsburgh (Pittsburgh in 7)
Nashville vs. Winnipeg (Nashville in 6)
San Jose vs. Dallas (Dallas in 6)

Boston vs Pittsburgh (Boston in 6)
Nashville vs Dallas (Nashville in 6)

Boston vs. Nashville (Boston in 6)
Forum: NHL TradesFeb. 23, 2018 at 7:14 p.m.
Thread: (OTT / PIT / VGK) - 3-Way Derick Brassard Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>One of those questions I had without a precedent (that I could find).

Sounds like ...
Ottawa retains some of Brassard's contract and sends him to Vegas.
Vegas retains on Brassard as well, then sends him to Pittsburgh.
Then Pittsburgh sends pieces to both teams to account for the retention, as well as additional pieces to Ottawa for the original value of Brassard.

If that's what they tried to do, and the league stepped in, it seems like that falls under the guidelines of cap circumvention in some capacity.</div></div>

It's an interesting situation without precedent.

Let's say Vegas, in theory, sends their 2018 1st round pick to Ottawa for Brassard (50% retained).
Pittsburgh then sends Cole, Gustavsson, and their 2018 1st to Ottawa for Vegas's 2018 1st.
Pittsburgh then sends Vegas's 2018 1st back as well as, say a future 2nd or 3rd round pick, to Vegas for Brassard (50% retained).

It's' clearly a premeditated move to lower a player's cap cost, but I don't see how it breaks any rules that I'm aware of in the CBA...
Forum: NHL TradesFeb. 23, 2018 at 6:48 p.m.
Thread: (OTT / PIT / VGK) - 3-Way Derick Brassard Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>So I guess the deal is canceled for now. Will probably get done soon though. I don't see how one of the GMs can back out at this point.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-width="550" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The league told all 3 teams involved that the deal(s) as originally presented weren&#39;t acceptable. So deal(s) being reworked.</p>&mdash; Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) <a href="https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/967176041499385857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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LeBrun followed that up with a tweet saying the general sentiment is that the deal will still get done somehow.
Forum: NHLFeb. 23, 2018 at 5:55 p.m.
Thread: Salary retention %
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fortier1985</b></div><div>Hi, looks like Brassard is going to be dealt to Pittsburgh via a 3rd team for more salary retention to fit under Pens cap. I know a team can't retain more then 50% of a player salary but can more then 50% can be retained be multiple team?

Like with Brassard 5 millions, Ott retains 50% 2.5m flipped to Vegas who retains 50% of the remaining 2.5m so i would leave Brassard to Pittsburgh at 1.25m? Is it something possible? Is there a max salary retention by multiple team?</div></div>

From my understanding, salary can be retained, at any percentage, on a player's contract twice.

So Ottawa could retain 50% of his contract in a trade to Vegas. His hit then becomes 2.5 mill.

Vegas could then retain another 50% in a trade to Pittsburgh. His hit drops to 1.25 mill.

Pittsburgh could not, however, trade him and retain further salary, or trade him back to either Vegas or Ottawa.