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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 10, 2018 at 1:30 p.m.
Thread: A Trouba trade this year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pross</b></div><div>I'd like to see Morrisey signed for less than $5m and give him a bridge deal for something more like $2.5m for 2 years. This would give Morrisey more time to develop and prove his worth. Trouba traded seems to be a legitimate action plan by the Jets, but giving up a 1st round pick in the process isn't likely part of the plan. As much as Buffalo might consider this trade, I doubt they'll accept it, since Ristolainen could play with Dahlin and create a core duo that the Sabers make the playoffs with in the not-so-distant future.

The other big concern is the cap room you've allowed for attempting to sign players like Kyle Conner, Patrik Laine, Tyler Myers, and Andrew Copp, which isn't a good place for starting the Jets 2019/20 season!</div></div>

Tyler Myers is allowed to walk and is used as an own rental this year. Kulikov and Perrault both traded at the draft or before next season to allow for Laine and Connor extensions. Worst case Connor is bridged. I'll draw up the 2019 outlook using this trade
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 30, 2018 at 9:51 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 14, 2018 at 2:41 p.m.
Thread: WPG ARZ trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Molson22</b></div><div>I am a Jets fan I know they will do good this season. I am only saying that the 1st is to much trouba is better then Chychrun no point to add the first and how is a mid third have similar value to a late first?</div></div>

A mid 3rd compared to a late 1st in the 25+ range <a href="https://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-nhl-draft-pick-value-1.786131" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-nhl-draft-pick-value-1.786131</a> and yes I do whole heartedly agree Trouba is better than Chychrun but to get back a solid and young D man who still has potential for someone who wants out especially when the kid you're getting has double the amount of control, and will cost a fraction of what Trouba does for the next 2 years (925K this year + whatever his RFA deal is which will guarenteed be less than 5.5M) will be helpful in signing the other young guys the Jets have!
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2018 at 10:21 a.m.
Thread: WPG ANH MTL 3 way deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>beavereater</b></div><div>WPG gives too much and ANA gives not enough</div></div>

ANH needs incentive to make the deal otherwise there's no reason for them to move Manson. Yes Trouba may be better then Manson but the fact that Manson has 4 years left and Trouba 2 is a big difference. Also Troubas salary will jump to 6+M next year where Manson remains at 4.1M for all those years.

If you want a top pairing RHD you need to give to get. Yes ANH upgrades massively and pays very little but they have no reason to move Manson unless their getting Trouba. WPG has to move either now, or in the offseason because they can't lose that kind of asset for nothing. To get Manson back would keep their window open 4 more years at least, without giving up an elite talent like Connor, Ros, Ehlers, Vesalainen etc. Chiarot + Spacket + 1st is a very small price to pay for A) The Trouba situation being over and B) keeping the Cup window open and C) not having to move a top level asset.

I think you're just really over valuing Chiarot or Spacek.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2018 at 11:10 a.m.
Thread: Trouba
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Naturalstattrick.com

And you're quoting mostly "differential" or "offensive" stats, not "defensive" stats with the exception of the highlighted portion above (which illustrates my point, thank you). Stats like xGF% doesn't tell you how good someone is defensively, just whether their offense outweighs their defense. You need to look at the purely defensive side of the equation, like the stats I mentioned above.</div></div>

Wasn't quoting defensive only I wanted comparisons for what you were getting in advanced stats as a whole. After comparing from naturalstatrick and hockey references it's evident from just CF CA CF% that something doesn't add up in the tabulations.
Statrick had dumba in 17/18 as 1344 CF and 1502 CA for CF% 47.22 where hockey reference had CF 1413 CA 1602 CF% 46.9%.
Statrick and Trouba in 17/18 as 955 CF and 914 CA for CF% 51.10 where hockey reference had 997 CF 980 CA CF% 50.4

There aren't overly huge differences but it does add up. I'm always looking to expand my analytics knowledge and understanding as adding any information when doing an evaluation is useful but it's just interesting that 3 different sites have 3 different evaluations and though all close in assessment, there seems to be a 2% margin of error between them