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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2023 at 3:41 p.m.
Thread: Here Chyky Chyky
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>-I think Arizona would pass on this. Sandin/1st/2nd would be a good start, but if you're kicking both picks to 2024 I think the last piece needs to be a significant prospect - and Abruzzese just isn't there for me. He's already 23 and hasn't done a whole lot at the NHL level - the fact that the Leafs are calling up guys like Joey Anderson and Bobby McMann over him gives me a lot of pause about how his game will translate at the NHL level. There needs to be something significant added/swapped out for Abruzzese here.

-This probably gets Meier, but I'd argue it's a bad deal for Toronto. I think Meier is a guy who would be a straight rental for them, and giving up your best prospect and your '23 1st for a rental you're not going to have the space to sign, then adding additional assets on top of that, is just too much.</div></div>

I'm banking on this being very close to the value both teams get back for both players. Arizona is getting a younger version of Chykrun in Sandin along with a 1st and 2nd. Throw in a B prospect and It's in the ballpark if not dead on IMO. Sandin brings a similar skillset to what Chyk does (Good offensively, decent defensively, PP QB, high hockey IQ), but needs more reps in the top 4 to round out his game. Leafs can't afford him that, Arizona can. I'd wager he has the potential to be better than Chykrun in a couple of years.

Meier is for sure a rental, but with benefits, if you will. He would be a great grab for the top 6 this year and Dubas could flip him to replenish some lost draft capital at the draft.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 2:59 p.m.
Thread: Leafs trade deadline all in dont grill me im not a leafs fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I am not trying to make it sound like Holl has been Jesus but I am saying he is someone who get ripped apart by fans/media (like Gardiner) and all of a sudden get thrown into the 1rst pairing and excels at it. You are right about Lilly being amazing though (If I were to overhype a defensemen, it would be Lilly). He 100% shouldn't be relied upon for top 4 minutes but isn't awful at it if injuries come. He is a puck moving RHD and should have value so I hope he returns for at least 1 more season.
I feel that the team needed him and he stepped up big time with all the injuries to the D core and I am trying to credit him with that</div></div>

100% agree with you on this. He was good when needed. But I do believe his deficiencies will outweigh his price tag come off-season.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
Thread: Leafs trade deadline all in dont grill me im not a leafs fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Who has been our best defensemen according to you? Why is it that every time he is on the ice, I notice him because he is/trying to make a good play? Everyone has brain farts in all zones because they are human. Who exactly do we get out of this deal that replaces Holl?</div></div>

In my mind, Lilly and Gio have been exceptional. I would also put Brodie and Sandin ahead of him this season. Sandin has been injured and has had his ups and downs same as Holl, but he is a much smarter player than Holl, makes better outlet passes and is younger with much more room to grow. I'm not saying Holl is useless, he just has some bad habits that I don't like. He makes poor decisions with the puck in the defensive and offensive zone regularly. At least once a game he makes soft clearing attempts resulting in give aways, pinches at the blue line to make a hit when he has no coverage behind him, gets lost in his d zone coverage leaving his man open. Again, he is a good bottom pairing option that can play up the lineup when needed, but shouldn't be relied upon for regular top 4 minutes, IMO. But you make it sound like he's been the pillar on defense all year. I disagree.

I think alot of the mistakes made by our defense in general are covered up by a strong defensive forward group, but that's another story. Bottom line, I doubt he is resigned this offseason and I for one am fine with it.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
Thread: Leafs trade deadline all in dont grill me im not a leafs fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I get that you aren't a Leafs Fan so I'll explain why the Leafs laugh in the opposing trade partners face:

Trade 1: Holl has been one of our best defensemen at 2 mill per year and Niemela is our 3rd best prospect at RHD. So, remove those 2 and you've got a deal (maybe add a 3rd but same thing)

Trade 2: Minten is our second best prospect and Sandin is very very valuable (considering his cap hit and how young he is and him being a former 1rst and his play as of late) and then the 2 firsts. Try 1 first and 1 of Sandin or Minten and the Leafs accept</div></div>

Holl has been adequate at best. Has he had some good stretches? Sure. But he in no way, shape or form has he been our best defender. He is a replaceable, but serviceable bottom 6 d man. I would trade him in a heartbeat if we could get someone on the right side with better d zone presence and sandpaper. Holl is prone to way too many brain farts in all zones.