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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2021 at 2:20 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster

Not that I ever think they would trade Leon, but they would absolutely have to get a stud number 1 Dman back. otherwise it would be a huge failure. Think Cale Makar or Chabot or Heiskanen something like that.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.

Thread: Oilers Wishful Thinking 2021 2022

I think the Oilers could probably just add a FA winger for 3-4 M without having to give up Bear and a 2nd. I would dangle the 2021 1st (in a weaker draft) to try to get Seattle to bite on Neal. I also think they re-sign Koekkoek if they can get him back around 1-1.5 M, and they try to work in Samarukov next year on the LD. Russell won't see a lot of ice next year.

Also I don't believe both Barrie AND Larsson will be back. I'd lean more toward Larsson mainly because he will be cheaper than Barrie and he brings a different style than what Bear and Bouchard bring.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2021 at 11:47 a.m.

Thread: It just seems to work

Oilers decline. They've traded a lot of picks already, the LD is already deep and Ennis and Jankowski are basically interchangeable.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2021 at 10:32 a.m.

Thread: Usa olympics 2022

I'd switch the sets of wingers on the 2nd and 3rd lines

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3, 2021 at 8:24 p.m.

Thread: How Far Could They Go

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>If you swap Pastrnak with Laine it would be better. With defence and center depth like that, you would think they would be contenders.</div></div>

Pastrnak and Marchand already play on a line together and Laine would literally just have to get open and he'd score 60 on Leon's line 😅

Forum: Fauteuil - DGFeb. 2, 2021 at 5:12 p.m.

Thread: danault

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gfy</b></div><div>i think that this deal would happen before the draft. trade during the season will be very thought to managed. with all the rule at the border and the quarantine they will likely keep the team as it is.
as for value i do think that this is a fair value for both team.</div></div>

Before the draft??? Huh? Why would Columbus give up Jenner and a 1st for someone who they could have for free by just waiting a few days.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2021 at 10:52 p.m.

Thread: Can we just

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2209912

Think you can beat this recent offer? :D</div></div>

Hmm I don't think the Oilers could give that amount of assets 😅

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2021 at 10:41 p.m.

Thread: Can we just

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Every indication from Poile so far seems to be they still see themselves in a competitive window. He talked earlier in the off-season about giving the prospects a chance, but later filled up the roster with a lot more UFA's than anyone following the team expected. There's a bit of a glut of forwards right now, and aside from the 4th line there isn't space to work any of the young guys into the lineup. Pretty much the same story on the back end. Realistically though, a rebuild/retool is inevitable. Aside from the fact that for whatever reason(s) this team has been underperforming for some time now, it's also one of the oldest squads in the league. So an injection of youth has to come sooner or later.

Josi has a NMC (the only one one the team, aside from Rinne), so he would be the least likely to be moved. Ellis isn't completely out of the question, in a rebuild scenario. NSH currently would need to protect four defensemen in the expansion draft. Ekholm seems the most likely to get traded, but Ellis could be moved in the right deal. Tolvanen wouldn't have a ton of value right now in a trade, but possibly could go for a similar prospect in a change of scenery type move, or as a secondary piece in a larger trade. Aside from Josi and Saros, I really don't think any of the roster players would be unavailable if they tear it down.

Some retention (maybe $1-1.5M) <em>could</em> be had on either of Duchene or Johansen, if the rest of the trade was advantageous enough to NSH. Even that might be pushing it though. I can't recall Poile retaining on a contract before. If he really wants to get either of those contracts off the books, letting the Kraken have one of them would probably be his best play.</div></div>

Okay thanks for the breakdown. What would a deal look like involving Ellis? He'd look great in Edmonton's Blueline 😁

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2021 at 2:48 p.m.

Thread: Who would you protect for the expansion draft right now Answer for ur fav team

For Oilers:

McDavid
Draisaitl
RNH (assuming he signs an extension)
Yamamoto
Kahun
Puljujarvi
Benson/Archibald
Nurse
Bear
C. Jones
Koskinen

Klefbom could be deemed exempt due to a shoulder injury that they could argue is career threatening. No guarantee he plays next season.
I've posted about this before but if I am Holland I would offer a 1st + a prospect like Benson for Seattle to take the final 2 years of Neal's contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.

Thread: Can we just

I really dont follow the Preds much, so I could be way off base here. But they seem like a team that is kind of in a state of flux right now. Is a rebuild/retool being considered? Any talk of moving out some vets and going a bit younger? Obviously Josi, Ellis, Tolvanen, shouldnt be moved, but what about guys like Forsberg, Arvidsson, Sissions, etc? How much would Nashville retain on Duchene or Johansen? Thanks!

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.

Thread: Oilers expansion protected list 4F 4D

What is the rule on Klefbom? Can you explain? Also I doubt they protect Lagesson. They are extremely deep at LD and are much better off keeping Kahun.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.

Thread: Its nothing personal Neal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Not that cheap for a player of his calibre, you guys talk like he's Nylander calibre but want to pay him like he's a bottom 6er</div></div>

I think Yamamoto is a good player and is important to the Oilers future. I'm not sure where anyone said he's Nylander calibre though. If Yamamoto gets more than 4M it is very poor cap management. Kucherov got 4.7 M on a bridge. Vasilevsky 3.5. Theres no reason to pay him more than that. He has no leverage whatsoever.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2021 at 3:17 p.m.

Thread: next year

This word on this draft seems to be that it is a weaker one. I have no problem trading this year's first.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2021 at 3:14 p.m.

Thread: Its nothing personal Neal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Sure, your best winger is going to only get 4 million.</div></div>
Sure. Bridge deals don't exist anymore.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2021 at 1:25 p.m.

Thread: Its nothing personal Neal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>The RNH and Yamamoto deals are insulting and really overall this is just shuffling d<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>The RNH and Yamamoto deals are insulting and really overall this is just shuffling deck chairs.</div></div>

They really aren't. Not sure what RNH has done to get 7+ M. Yamamoto is a standard bridge deal. You could argue 4 M maybe but unless they go long term he's not getting more than that. Especially when the cap isn't going to go up.</div></div>

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.

Thread: Its nothing personal Neal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>Just buy him out. It's not the most expensive buyout.</div></div>

No more buyouts. Its just dead cap.. you cant trade it or anything. It would be 1.9M on the books for 4 years. This years draft is weaker than usual. If it means you can sign a Top 6 winger for McDavid, then its worth giving up.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.

Thread: Saadfather returns

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MBisch28</b></div><div>Elvis is exempt from the expansion draft so they only have to protect Korpi.</div></div>

Thanks

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.

Thread: Saadfather returns

What is the sense on the goalie situation in CBJ? I'd think they have to move one otherwise they'll lose one to Seattle. Am I way off on that?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28, 2021 at 5:10 p.m.

Thread: 2020 U23 NA Stars

Matthews wouldnt be on it, I think they said whoever was on the team before, is eligible to play for their country the next time. And Hischier? Isn't he swiss? He would be on Europe

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.

Thread: Smaller Tweaks

Oilers accept

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.

Thread: Ottawa center please

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I have said for a year now, Barrie was the worse Dman the Leafs had last season. Looks like Oilers fans are finding out too, how poor he is.</div></div>

You can easily see he's the most talented offensively on the Oilers blueline. But the fact he isn't producing or creating a lot of chances means he is barely serviceable right now. Nurse has replaced him on the top PP. I think having a righty on there threw them off for a bit and Nurse gives them some familiarity as a left shot. But yea if Barrie isnt going offensively, he really doesnt provide anything of value. I expect that to change though, and Barrie will get another shot on the PP.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 27, 2021 at 1:53 p.m.

Thread: My top Vince Dunn trades

Thoughts on Kelfbom straight up for Vince Dunn ?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2021 at 7:09 p.m.

Thread: rangers get McDavid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Opie</b></div><div>I think any team trading for McDavid has to put together a trade package that is intolerable to both the front office and fans alike. It has to hurt to be fair value.</div></div>

Not to mention it would just destroy the core of any team. It would be hard to build around him to compete by the time his contract is up.

Use Carolina for example, it would have to be something like Aho, Svechnikov, Pesce + Completely unrealistic haha

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2021 at 7:01 p.m.

Thread: rangers get McDavid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>this is significantly more than the oilers got for gretzky</div></div>

What does that have to do with anything lol Gretzky was sold, in the form of a trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2021 at 10:43 a.m.

Thread: rangers get McDavid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jetman</b></div><div>I would almost do it if I was EDM less Strome...they have nightmares about him</div></div>

Are you serious? What exactly are the Oilers getting here? A 3C that didn't work here before, a fringe starter, a goofball in Deangelo, 2 guys who haven't proven anything in the NHL and picks? Not a chance.

Rangers don't have a number 1 D so there's no deal to be made.

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