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Created by: Kyle_Davidson
Team: 2018-19 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 2, 2018
Published: Aug. 2, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
The patches to Chicago trades have to stop.
Trades
CHI
  1. Pacioretty, Max
  2. 2019 5th round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
No extension
MTL
  1. Boqvist, Adam
  2. Jokiharju, Henri
  3. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
  4. Schmaltz, Nick
  5. Seabrook, Brent ($3,435,000 retained)
  6. Toews, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
  7. 2019 1st round pick (CHI)
  8. 2019 2nd round pick (CHI)
  9. 2020 1st round pick (CHI)
  10. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
  11. 2021 1st round pick (CHI)
  12. 2021 2nd round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
Fair trade value
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$79,500,000$64,049,711$1,232,500$3,907,500$15,450,289
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$4,550,000$4,550,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
$833,750$833,750
C, LW
RFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
C
UFA - 1
$2,775,000$2,775,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$706,666$706,666
C, LW
UFA - 2
$750,000$750,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 4
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 3
$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1

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Aug. 2, 2018 at 5:39 p.m.
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100% agree with that. It’s getting annoying.
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Aug. 2, 2018 at 5:49 p.m.
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Once a Kings Fan Too
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Hilarious! (Did you see the Pacioretty-for-Perry trade suggested in which Anaheim also sent Montreal a first-round pick, Jacob Larsson and Troy Terry for Nikita Scherbak and Jodie Benn?)
Aug. 2, 2018 at 5:54 p.m.
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Who cares? Are people only supposed to make trades to teams that have been verified to have targeted a specific player by the "insiders"?

I get not wanting to see bad trades, those need to stop I agree but picking an choosing where they go? Damn man. There is going to be like 5 AGM's per day then... and at least two of them will probably be Troll posts...

What If its a good trade for Chicago, you wouldn't want to see that?
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Aug. 2, 2018 at 6:17 p.m.
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Pass it to Lucic
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all the Patches trades need to stop......
Aug. 2, 2018 at 6:19 p.m.
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Pass it to Lucic
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Quoting: F50marco
Who cares? Are people only supposed to make trades to teams that have been verified to have targeted a specific player by the "insiders"?

I get not wanting to see bad trades, those need to stop I agree but picking an choosing where they go? Damn man. There is going to be like 5 AGM's per day then... and at least two of them will probably be Troll posts...

What If its a good trade for Chicago, you wouldn't want to see that?


Patches value has been drug through the mud for awhile now. Im not sure why, i guess 1 bad season erases 5 30 goal(6 if you pro rate he lockout, i believe) seasons that happened prior to that.
Aug. 2, 2018 at 6:33 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Who cares? Are people only supposed to make trades to teams that have been verified to have targeted a specific player by the "insiders"?

I get not wanting to see bad trades, those need to stop I agree but picking an choosing where they go? Damn man. There is going to be like 5 AGM's per day then... and at least two of them will probably be Troll posts...

What If its a good trade for Chicago, you wouldn't want to see that?


My problem is more with the people doing the Patch trades. They are pretty rough to look at because they think he is going to fetch a ridiculous return. Also... almost every team created on AGM is related to patch. It’s time to stop.
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Aug. 2, 2018 at 6:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Herms17
Patches value has been drug through the mud for awhile now. Im not sure why, i guess 1 bad season erases 5 30 goal(6 if you pro rate he lockout, i believe) seasons that happened prior to that.


It's not that. It's that he's 30 years old and wants a long term contract 5 or 6 years and will demand $6M+. That's crazy for any team to take on as a 1 year rental and risk having to sign him till he's 37 for that kind of money.
Aug. 2, 2018 at 6:42 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Who cares? Are people only supposed to make trades to teams that have been verified to have targeted a specific player by the "insiders"?

I get not wanting to see bad trades, those need to stop I agree but picking an choosing where they go? Damn man. There is going to be like 5 AGM's per day then... and at least two of them will probably be Troll posts...

What If its a good trade for Chicago, you wouldn't want to see that?

That’s like saying When someone rumors McDavid getting traded everyone for the next 3 months will be making trades of McDavid to there team. It’s just super annoying.
Aug. 2, 2018 at 6:43 p.m.
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I don't know what is in the water between Ottawa and Montreal.....a 90 mile distance, but these trades of Patches and Karlsson are generally really poor. And to top it off, can't think of a good trade, make it a "sign and trade" just to justify the the inflated value of the trade.
Aug. 2, 2018 at 6:48 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
It's not that. It's that he's 30 years old and wants a long term contract 5 or 6 years and will demand $6M+. That's crazy for any team to take on as a 1 year rental and risk having to sign him till he's 37 for that kind of money.


Tell me hows that any different than the returns that Rick Nash and Evander Kane got. Ive seen quite a few trades that are fair yet get dragged through the mud anyway by the other teams fans. Evander Kane signed for 7x7 and that brings him until he is 35. Patcioretty also wont turn 30 until we are well into the season so as it stands there is a 2 year gap between him and Kane, the return should be similar if not greater than Kane considering the points that they put up.
Aug. 2, 2018 at 10:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
My problem is more with the people doing the Patch trades. They are pretty rough to look at because they think he is going to fetch a ridiculous return. Also... almost every team created on AGM is related to patch. It’s time to stop.


Its what happens when I'd say a quarter of the CF posters on here are Habs fans. Arizona would be no different but there's only a 1 maybe 2 on here. laugh

All jokes aside, i get that the trades are bad, I agree and Im a Habs fan but blame the individuals, not the idea of Pacioretty going to Chicago. As if that is the worst thing that could ever happen. The guy is freaking stud. Any team would be lucky to have him. Just not at any price.
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Aug. 2, 2018 at 10:02 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 2, 2018 at 10:18 p.m.
Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
That’s like saying When someone rumors McDavid getting traded everyone for the next 3 months will be making trades of McDavid to there team. It’s just super annoying.


And? What else do we have to talk about? Not like there's any other pressing important happening in the NHL lately... aside from Skinner literally just now.

You know what I hate as much as all these bad Habs fans AGMs? All these other teams trying to pond Pacioretty off as a virtually valueless player now who they then immediately play on the top line of their teams.......Equally annoying.
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Aug. 2, 2018 at 10:11 p.m.
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Stan, you mean all of our trades have Maxed out?!
Aug. 2, 2018 at 10:41 p.m.
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Kyle from Chicago
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Quoting: F50marco
And? What else do we have to talk about? Not like there's any other pressing important happening in the NHL lately... aside from Skinner literally just now.

You know what I hate as much as all these bad Habs fans AGMs? All these other teams trying to pond Pacioretty off as a virtually valueless player now who they then immediately play on the top line of their teams.......Equally annoying.


Fair point.
Aug. 3, 2018 at 1:07 a.m.
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DarthKane
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Fair deal for both sides.
Aug. 3, 2018 at 10:33 a.m.
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"Seems like a pretty fair deal" - 50% of Habs fans on this website
 
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