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Team: 2018-19 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 7, 2019
Published: Jan. 7, 2019
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Jan. 7, 2019 at 9:45 a.m.
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Schenn is not worth that much, Simmonds is not worth that little. We only go for one, we don't need both. JFK has been are reliable 3rd liner center that plays 10 to 12 minutes a game and putting up 6 points in 21 games. For a 3rd liner that plays less than 11 minutes a game, that seems very good.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 9:46 a.m.
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A bottom 6 forward, 3rd line/AHL defensemen, and a 2nd for a 70 point center?
Jan. 7, 2019 at 9:49 a.m.
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So you just take Simmonds for ahl player
Jan. 7, 2019 at 9:52 a.m.
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Schenn is not worth that much, Simmonds is not worth that little. We only go for one, we don't need both. JFK has been are reliable 3rd liner center that plays 10 to 12 minutes a game and putting up 6 points in 21 games. For a 3rd liner that plays less than 11 minutes a game, that seems very good.


This is undervaluing Schenn. A Bottom 6 Line Forward who has not been performing a 3rd Line Pairing Defenseman and a 2nd for Schenn who is a 70 Point guy.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 9:58 a.m.
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This is undervaluing Schenn. A Bottom 6 Line Forward who has not been performing a 3rd Line Pairing Defenseman and a 2nd for Schenn who is a 70 Point guy.


funny you mentioned that. 70 point for a season makes a 70 point guy for a career? no. Schenn is a solid 45 to 50 point player, he just got a breakout year. Hes on pace for less than 50 points this season, don't see that high of a value in him. He has such a high cap hit that hes going to stop us from signing our young guys. Heinen is not a bottom 6 foward. He needs a change of scenery. If you say that Schenn is a 70 point guy, you are saying Heinen is a 50 point guy or more. He got 44 points in his rookie season playing only 77 games, so isn't he supposedly a 50 point player? and he is developing, a young speedy winger/center. If you guys don't want Grizz, sure. He is honestly very solid this season and last season. Good, I don't want to see him go either. Sure, the blues can screw up and not able to resign Schenn the next year and have the Sabers take your pick and turn it into alexis lafreniere, don't mind that at all, anyways, the sabers will not solve the Bruins in the near future.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 9:58 a.m.
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A bottom 6 forward, 3rd line/AHL defensemen, and a 2nd for a 70 point center?


funny you mentioned that. 70 point for a season makes a 70 point guy for a career? no. Schenn is a solid 45 to 50 point player, he just got a breakout year. Hes on pace for less than 50 points this season, don't see that high of a value in him. He has such a high cap hit that hes going to stop us from signing our young guys. Heinen is not a bottom 6 foward. He needs a change of scenery. If you say that Schenn is a 70 point guy, you are saying Heinen is a 50 point guy or more. He got 44 points in his rookie season playing only 77 games, so isn't he supposedly a 50 point player? and he is developing, a young speedy winger/center. If you guys don't want Grizz, sure. He is honestly very solid this season and last season. Good, I don't want to see him go either. Sure, the blues can screw up and not able to resign Schenn the next year and have the Sabers take your pick and turn it into alexis lafreniere, don't mind that at all, anyways, the sabers will not solve the Bruins in the near future. btw, this is copy and pasted
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Jan. 7, 2019 at 9:59 a.m.
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So you just take Simmonds for ahl player


Zboril is developing into a top 4 D, 100%, hes 21 and he has been outstanding during the callup, he isn't ready yet, but he will be in a year or 2. Cehlarik is a well built top 9 foward. Yes, the value isn't there but Zboril and Cehlarik isn't AHL players.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 10:01 a.m.
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funny you mentioned that. 70 point for a season makes a 70 point guy for a career? no. Schenn is a solid 45 to 50 point player, he just got a breakout year. Hes on pace for less than 50 points this season, don't see that high of a value in him. He has such a high cap hit that hes going to stop us from signing our young guys. Heinen is not a bottom 6 foward. He needs a change of scenery. If you say that Schenn is a 70 point guy, you are saying Heinen is a 50 point guy or more. He got 44 points in his rookie season playing only 77 games, so isn't he supposedly a 50 point player? and he is developing, a young speedy winger/center. If you guys don't want Grizz, sure. He is honestly very solid this season and last season. Good, I don't want to see him go either. Sure, the blues can screw up and not able to resign Schenn the next year and have the Sabers take your pick and turn it into alexis lafreniere, don't mind that at all, anyways, the sabers will not solve the Bruins in the near future.


Sorry to say your bias. He hasn't hit 50 Points which is different. Schenn at least has hit 70 Points. Plus you aren't meeting what we need to compensate us for what we gave Philly for him. So even more so where a "change of scenery" is not a risk we are willing to take on him. Plus Blues probably give 2019 pick top 10 to Buffalo, and keep their chances on Lafreniere. So keep getting mad, but biasness doesn't help you get Schenn.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 10:10 a.m.
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Zboril is developing into a top 4 D, 100%, hes 21 and he has been outstanding during the callup, he isn't ready yet, but he will be in a year or 2. Cehlarik is a well built top 9 foward. Yes, the value isn't there but Zboril and Cehlarik isn't AHL players.


Not very good stat to show a good future in the NHL
Jan. 7, 2019 at 10:24 a.m.
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A bottom 6 forward, 3rd line/AHL defensemen, and a 2nd for a 70 point center?


Your post shows you have no idea about the players involved and are overvaluing your own player. He's not a 70 point player. He had a breakout year last year, but his career avg shows he's a 50-55 pt player. Not to mention if he was a 70pt player your team wouldn't even consider trading him
Jan. 7, 2019 at 11:10 a.m.
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my counter is schenn for heinen and vaakaneinen or frederic and a 1st.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 1:00 p.m.
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A bottom 6 forward, 3rd line/AHL defensemen, and a 2nd for a 70 point center?


This post is ****ing hilarious. One season of 70 points does not make Schenn a 70 point center. Going by your logic, I need to ask.... How is Heinen a bottom 6 winger? How many bottom 6 wingers put up 47 points? I would classify Heinen as a Top 9 winger more than a bottom 6 winger. He will play from the 3rd line, up. He's having a rough sophomore season, but has potential to be a middle 6 winger. You also seem to not have a freaking clue about Matt Grzelcyk. He is not even close to an AHL defenseman. He's on the 3rd pairing in Boston because we have Chara and Krug already. Even with that, Grzelcyk is averaging just over 20 minutes TOI per game. How many 3rd line (lololol) / AHL defenseman average that kind of time? He's a ridiculous skater and sound defensively, despite his diminutive size. He is a solid puck mover and can play on the PP; though he's better suited for a 2nd unit role.

Maybe don't comment if you only know about one player..... And maybe don't overvalue the hell out of said player.
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Jan. 7, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.
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This is undervaluing Schenn. A Bottom 6 Line Forward who has not been performing a 3rd Line Pairing Defenseman and a 2nd for Schenn who is a 70 Point guy.


He has scored 70 once next highest is is a 59.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 1:25 p.m.
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This is undervaluing Schenn. A Bottom 6 Line Forward who has not been performing a 3rd Line Pairing Defenseman and a 2nd for Schenn who is a 70 Point guy.


Well, Heinen, at times has looked like a first line guy. He went through stretches last year where he was fantastic. Grizz has played like a top four d man this year. So by your logic of Schenn being a 70 point guy (1 for 8 so far in his career), its a first line wing and a top four d.


Stop thinking Schenn is what he was last year
Jan. 7, 2019 at 1:31 p.m.
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my counter is schenn for heinen and vaakaneinen or frederic and a 1st.


So 2 first round picks for 1.5 years of Schenn?? Don't think so.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 1:41 p.m.
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Well, Heinen, at times has looked like a first line guy. He went through stretches last year where he was fantastic. Grizz has played like a top four d man this year. So by your logic of Schenn being a 70 point guy (1 for 8 so far in his career), its a first line wing and a top four d.


Stop thinking Schenn is what he was last year


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So 2 first round picks for 1.5 years of Schenn?? Don't think so.


Well then I think we will just keep Schenn then. You can find someone else because this is ridiculous. You aren't going to get Schenn for what you think is good for you only. There are 2 Teams to the trade not one. We aren't going to give him up to give Boston a favor. So let's just stop arguing about "What schenn is worth" Because apparently you think you can take advantage of the Blues, but you know it doesn't matter Schenn won't go to Boston for something EA wouldn't except.
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Jan. 7, 2019 at 3:36 p.m.
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Well then I think we will just keep Schenn then. You can find someone else because this is ridiculous. You aren't going to get Schenn for what you think is good for you only. There are 2 Teams to the trade not one. We aren't going to give him up to give Boston a favor. So let's just stop arguing about "What schenn is worth" Because apparently you think you can take advantage of the Blues, but you know it doesn't matter Schenn won't go to Boston for something EA wouldn't except.


What is a 50 point forward worth? A Grzelcyk + Heinen + 2nd deal is more than fair. You get two young proven NHL players, one of which a defenseman (value), with upper lineup potential + 2nd rounder for a Top 6 center/wing who has 1.5 years left.

Also... Who gives a flying **** if the Blues wouldn't ACCEPT this package in EA NHL 19? You couldn't get Schenn in NHL 19 for DeBrusk + Carlo, either..... Blues would take a trade like that in real life and run to the hills.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 3:46 p.m.
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What is a 50 point forward worth? A Grzelcyk + Heinen + 2nd deal is more than fair. You get two young proven NHL players, one of which a defenseman (value), with upper lineup potential + 2nd rounder for a Top 6 center/wing who has 1.5 years left.

Also... Who gives a flying **** if the Blues wouldn't ACCEPT this package in EA NHL 19? You couldn't get Schenn in NHL 19 for DeBrusk + Carlo, either..... Blues would take a trade like that in real life and run to the hills.


Did I say Debrusk and Carlo? No I didn't it is meaning this trade wouldn't go through because this offer is absymal.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 3:51 p.m.
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Did I say Debrusk and Carlo? No I didn't it is meaning this trade wouldn't go through because this offer is absymal.


Lmfao... You're missing my point. The game wouldn't even accept Carlo + DeBrusk for Brayden Schenn. The game rarely accepts real life hockey trades. This offer suggested by the OP is more than fair. It's okay that you don't have an understanding of the Bruins players. My advice would be to refrain from talking about this deal because you only know one side; and you even manage to botch that up, thinking he's a 70 point center with some serious value. He's a 50-55 point forward with a 1.5 years left. Good luck thinking you're going to get an absolute haul for that. Maybe let the big dogs, who have a clue, discuss the deal. Sit on the sideline and learn.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 3:55 p.m.
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Lmfao... You're missing my point. The game wouldn't even accept Carlo + DeBrusk for Brayden Schenn. The game rarely accepts real life hockey trades. This offer suggested by the OP is more than fair. It's okay that you don't have an understanding of the Bruins players. My advice would be to refrain from talking about this deal because you only know one side; and you even manage to botch that up, thinking he's a 70 point center with some serious value. He's a 50-55 point forward with a 1.5 years left. Good luck thinking you're going to get an absolute haul for that. Maybe let the big dogs, who have a clue, discuss the deal. Sit on the sideline and learn.


Nevermind I am not going to argue with a bias Bruins fan who wants everything for not enough. Congrats you are the new Toronto fans. Now leave me along I am not going to argue with a kid anymore.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 3:59 p.m.
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Nevermind I am not going to argue with a bias Bruins fan who wants everything for not enough. Congrats you are the new Toronto fans. Now leave me along I am not going to argue with a kid anymore.


It has nothing to do with being a biased Bruins fan. I look at the deal presented, and it's more than fair. If I'm biased for wanting everything for "not enough" (lololol) then you're biased for wanting too much. I'm not a kid. I've easily forgotten more about hockey than you currently know.

Also, it's hilarious you ignored my original response to you, and only took away the video game comment. Aren't intelligent enough to chime in on a legitimate rebuttal? Who's the kid here? Lollllll
Jan. 7, 2019 at 4:01 p.m.
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Well then I think we will just keep Schenn then. You can find someone else because this is ridiculous. You aren't going to get Schenn for what you think is good for you only. There are 2 Teams to the trade not one. We aren't going to give him up to give Boston a favor. So let's just stop arguing about "What schenn is worth" Because apparently you think you can take advantage of the Blues, but you know it doesn't matter Schenn won't go to Boston for something EA wouldn't except.


What is a 50 point forward worth? A Grzelcyk + Heinen + 2nd deal is more than fair. You get two young proven NHL players, one of which a defenseman (value), with upper lineup potential + 2nd rounder for a Top 6 center/wing who has 1.5 years left.

Posting again since I want you to actually focus on the main point of my response and not some trivial video game BS
Jan. 7, 2019 at 4:03 p.m.
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It has nothing to do with being a biased Bruins fan. I look at the deal presented, and it's more than fair. If I'm biased for wanting everything for "not enough" (lololol) then you're biased for wanting too much. I'm not a kid. I've easily forgotten more about hockey than you currently know.

Also, it's hilarious you ignored my original response to you, and only took away the video game comment. Aren't intelligent enough to chime in on a legitimate rebuttal? Who's the kid here? Lollllll


Okay. How many years have you played. I know I have 8 years of Goalie Experience with playing Center every once in awhile as well. Try to gain more experience on me kiddo. You have no clue what MARKET value is. Blues aren't going to just give Schenn to the Bruins as a favor as you expect.
Jan. 7, 2019 at 6:30 p.m.
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So 2 first round picks for 1.5 years of Schenn?? Don't think so.


If you dont accept that trade that is fine, but you are not getting Schenn for anything less
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Jan. 7, 2019 at 10:46 p.m.
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Well then I think we will just keep Schenn then. You can find someone else because this is ridiculous. You aren't going to get Schenn for what you think is good for you only. There are 2 Teams to the trade not one. We aren't going to give him up to give Boston a favor. So let's just stop arguing about "What schenn is worth" Because apparently you think you can take advantage of the Blues, but you know it doesn't matter Schenn won't go to Boston for something EA wouldn't except.


Settle down. This isn’t my act. Just pointing out some hypocrisy in saying that Schenn is a 70 point guy but the Boston guys stink. You’re cherry picking on the best of Schenn and the worst of Grizz and Heinen in your evaluations
 
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