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Roster Once Healthy Carolina Trade

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 29, 2019
Published: Jun. 29, 2019
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I just committed the sin of trading for Pesce again. Forgive me?
Pesce is a top 4 rhd. Necas is a top centre prospect. Kadri is a top 6 Centre, Bracco is a high end winger prospect (just led AHL in scoring), Woll is a great goalie prospect + a 2nd.

Value wise, Toronto is giving up enough here. Now it doesn't mean Carolina parts with Pesce. (he is just the guy I want)

Ennis could be swapped out for another cheap 4th line centre. I thought he looked good last year when he played, so I brought him back.
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 8:49 p.m.
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Big fat no from Carolina
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 8:51 p.m.
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Yes, please have a high end defensive defenseman and our top prospect for Nazem Kadri
Jun. 29, 2019 at 8:53 p.m.
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Yes, please have a high end defensive defenseman and our top prospect for Nazem Kadri


Lol.... but the trade is much more than kadri... Bracco is young and just led the AHL in scoring. He is our best offensive prospect. Woll is a high end goalie prospect. Plus a 2nd. If all you see is Kadri going back, you are mistaken. Bracco outscored Necas by far in the AHL this year.
Jun. 29, 2019 at 8:55 p.m.
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For every Kadri trade sub in Duchene and see if you'd do it. Kadri is virtually as good as Duchene and signed at half the price
Jun. 29, 2019 at 8:58 p.m.
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Yes, please have a high end defensive defenseman and our top prospect for Nazem Kadri


Carolina accepts or Toronto threatens an offer sheet to Aho. We all know Dundon isn't paying the big bill for him so make up your mind who you wanna keep wink
Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:00 p.m.
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Bracco didn’t lead the AHL in scoring?
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:01 p.m.
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Bracco didn’t lead the AHL in scoring?


Just looked. He came second! My bad! Guy ahead of him is a few years older also.
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:02 p.m.
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Lol.... but the trade is much more than kadri... Bracco is young and just led the AHL in scoring. He is our best offensive prospect. Woll is a high end goalie prospect. Plus a 2nd. If all you see is Kadri going back, you are mistaken. Bracco outscored Necas by far in the AHL this year.


Carter Verhaeghe lead the AHL in scoring
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:02 p.m.
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Carolina accepts or Toronto threatens an offer sheet to Aho. We all know Dundon isn't paying the big bill for him so make up your mind who you wanna keep wink


We don't have first round picks to offer sheet him
Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:03 p.m.
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Just looked. He came second! My bad! Guy ahead of him is a few years older also.


It’s all good
Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:03 p.m.
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Carter Verhaeghe lead the AHL in scoring


Yea! Just checked. Other guy posted same thing. Bracco was 2nd. My bad!
Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:04 p.m.
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We don't have first round picks to offer sheet him


Actually all 31 teams have the ability to offer sheet right now. Because its 4 first rounders in the next 5 years. Not 4 in 4. They looked into it and every team league wide has the ability to offer sheet right now.
Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:04 p.m.
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We don't have first round picks to offer sheet him


Yes we do.. if it's multiple 1st round picks Toronto only has to have them within the next few drafts.. ie if its 2 1st round picks, they only need to have 2 within the next 3 drafts.. which they currently have
Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:06 p.m.
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Carolina accepts or Toronto threatens an offer sheet to Aho. We all know Dundon isn't paying the big bill for him so make up your mind who you wanna keep wink


Canes use Toronto's own first rounder to offer sheet marner
Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:06 p.m.
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First off, I don't blame you for going after Pesce again. I'd love to see him on our blueline...as long as leaf fans understand that this guy doesn't produce much offensively....Pesce does tons of the little things that might not be as noticeable but they help eliminate scoring chances against which is what we need most.

The trade offer is very light, tho...there were rumours (take that for what they are). that Kadri and Kapanen were offered for Pesce + (who knows what the + was) and Carolina said no. At 22yrs old Bracco is still a decent prospect...but not something you consider a blue-chipper.
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:07 p.m.
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Actually all 31 teams have the ability to offer sheet right now. Because its 4 first rounders in the next 5 years. Not 4 in 4. They looked into it and every team league wide has the ability to offer sheet right now.


Cool...thanks for the clarification.
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Canes use Toronto's own first rounder to offer sheet marner


They can't. It has to be a teams own picks for offer sheets.. Plus if Dundon won't pay Aho, he sure as hell won't pay Marner his asking price..
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First off, I don't blame you for going after Pesce again. I'd love to see him on our blueline...as long as leaf fans understand that this guy doesn't produce much offensively....Pesce does tons of the little things that might not be as noticeable but they help eliminate scoring chances against which is what we need most.

The trade offer is very light, tho...there were rumours (take that for what they are). that Kadri and Kapanen were offered for Pesce + (who knows what the + was) and Carolina said no. At 22yrs old Bracco is still a decent prospect...but not something you consider a blue-chipper.


Totally fair. Thanks for the feedback smile
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:09 p.m.
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For every Kadri trade sub in Duchene and see if you'd do it. Kadri is virtually as good as Duchene and signed at half the price


Jesus Christ
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:16 p.m.
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For every Kadri trade sub in Duchene and see if you'd do it. Kadri is virtually as good as Duchene and signed at half the price


Accept duchene is younger, doubled the point totals of Kadri, is hitting his prime and improving meanwhile Kadri is coming off his worst year and play completely different style game. Besides all that they are close if u where leaf fan googles.
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For every Kadri trade sub in Duchene and see if you'd do it. Kadri is virtually as good as Duchene and signed at half the price


31+ 39 = 70 vs 16 + 28 = 44. And Duchene is available for play off games. Yeah, they are practically mirror images of each other.
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For every Kadri trade sub in Duchene and see if you'd do it. Kadri is virtually as good as Duchene and signed at half the price


Kadri is playing with top end player! He is a good player no questions about that but please do not compare him too duchesne! Duschenes played for the worst team and average a point per game playing against top end defenceman! Kadri is playing against 3rd pairing defenceman all year! Duchene got lot
More offensive upside he is a real 1 st line players. Kadri is still very effective but he is
Not that kind off player. He got more grit too is game for sure but he is not duchenes come on
Jun. 29, 2019 at 11:03 p.m.
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For every Kadri trade sub in Duchene and see if you'd do it. Kadri is virtually as good as Duchene and signed at half the price


This is what im trying to tell ppl too but they don't wanna listen?
Jun. 29, 2019 at 11:48 p.m.
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Jesus Christ


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Accept duchene is younger, doubled the point totals of Kadri, is hitting his prime and improving meanwhile Kadri is coming off his worst year and play completely different style game. Besides all that they are close if u where leaf fan googles.


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31+ 39 = 70 vs 16 + 28 = 44. And Duchene is available for play off games. Yeah, they are practically mirror images of each other.


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Kadri is playing with top end player! He is a good player no questions about that but please do not compare him too duchesne! Duschenes played for the worst team and average a point per game playing against top end defenceman! Kadri is playing against 3rd pairing defenceman all year! Duchene got lot
More offensive upside he is a real 1 st line players. Kadri is still very effective but he is
Not that kind off player. He got more grit too is game for sure but he is not duchenes come on


I've already addressed this:

"You know who Kadri is damn comparable to? Duchene! And he is about to get 9-9.5 million. Meanwhile Leafs fans are trying to dump Kadri as they feel 4.7 is too much for him

Kadri was the 7th overall pick in 2009 to Duchene's 3rd overall

Over the last 3 years
Duchene has played 232 games scored 76 goals and 170 points
Kadri has played in 235 games scored 80 goals and 160 points

For those that care about +/- Kadri has been a -7 to Duchene's -59

If you look into it deeper Kadri played less minutes (3882 minutes to Duchene's 4288 minutes) had about a half shot more per game (kadris 2.69 to Duchene's 2.25).

http://hkref.com/tiny/Rornw here's the comparison"
Jun. 30, 2019 at 12:20 a.m.
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Quoting: BCAPP
I've already addressed this:

"You know who Kadri is damn comparable to? Duchene! And he is about to get 9-9.5 million. Meanwhile Leafs fans are trying to dump Kadri as they feel 4.7 is too much for him

Kadri was the 7th overall pick in 2009 to Duchene's 3rd overall

Over the last 3 years
Duchene has played 232 games scored 76 goals and 170 points
Kadri has played in 235 games scored 80 goals and 160 points

For those that care about +/- Kadri has been a -7 to Duchene's -59

If you look into it deeper Kadri played less minutes (3882 minutes to Duchene's 4288 minutes) had about a half shot more per game (kadris 2.69 to Duchene's 2.25).

http://hkref.com/tiny/Rornw here's the comparison"


You can compare those two! Duchenes got 547 point career and kadri got
357 point ! Duchenes play against best defenceman all the time vs kadri played against 3rd pairing! If duchenes where playing with the maples leafs he would make a lot
More point! If you think kadri = duchenes you don’t watch hockey a lot! They are complete different player duchenes make player around better vs kadri best year was when he play with mitch marner this year on third line he had difficulty too setup play! Check the point difference even strengh duchenes is by far a better player!
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