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Convincing Hall to Stay

Created by: bbell080
Initial Creation Date: Aug 20, 2019
Published: Aug 20, 2019 at 3:26
Team: 2019-20 New Jersey Devils
Team Explanation
This is obviously an insane idea, and there are reasons on both sides to say no, but this move makes a lot of sense for both teams when you dig into it. Chicago needs to reboot, and NJD needs to contend now, especially with Hughes cheap for only three years.

Will this happen? No, not in a million years, but should it? No, probably not. But isn't this site about having fun ideas and seeing how they might work? Yes, yes it is.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zacha, Pavel1$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marleau, Patrick1$1,000,000
Brassard, Derick1$2,000,000
Trades
NJD
  1. Kane, Patrick
Additional Details:
CHI needs to retool at the very least, and probably rebuild. Hard to do, with both Kane and Toews on the books for $10.5M/year for the next four years. NJD needs to make a splash to show Hall, and to a certain extent Hughes, that they are here to compete now and for the next few years. To do it by trading Hischier, Wood, Smith, and Boqvist plus two firsts. The Hawks jumpstart their rebuild or retool with three solid young forwards (all three with top-six potential) and a potential top-2 D, plus two late first-round picks.
CHI
  1. Hischier, Nico
  2. Wood, Miles
  3. Smith, Ty
  4. Boqvist, Jesper
  5. 2020 1st round pick (NJD)
  6. 2021 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. DeMelo, Dylan
Additional Details:
Sens take on the greater salary, which lets NJD make the insane and unlikely move I've already suggested, and the Sens can flip Vatanen at the deadline, likely for a 1st
OTT
  1. Vatanen, Sami
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
  • Mike Cammalleri: $1,666,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Taylor Hall: $3,000,000 (50%)
  • Sami Vatanen: $2,437,500 (50%)
  • Wayne Simmonds: $2,500,000 (50%)
Recapture Fees
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NJD
BOS
NJD
NJD
NJD
2021
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
2022
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
CBJ
NJD
NJD
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$82,325,833$0$3,025,000-$825,833

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
NJD
Hall, Taylor
$3,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
NJD
Hughes, Jack
$925,000
C
RFA - 3
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
NJD
Gusev, Nikita
$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
NJD
Zajac, Travis
$5,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
NJD
Palmieri, Kyle
$4,650,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Marleau, Patrick
$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Brassard, Derick
$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
NJD
Simmonds, Wayne
$2,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
NJD
Bratt, Jesper
$749,167
LW, RW
RFA - 1
NJD
Zacha, Pavel
$1,250,000
C
RFA - 3
NJD
Coleman, Blake
$1,800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NJD
Butcher, Will
$3,733,333
LD
UFA - 3
NJD
Subban, P.K.
$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
NJD
Schneider, Cory
$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
NJD
Greene, Andy
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
NJD
Severson, Damon
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 4
NJD
Blackwood, Mackenzie
$697,500
G
RFA - 1
NJD
Mueller, Mirco
$1,400,000
LD
RFA - 1
OTT
DeMelo, Dylan
$900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NJD
Rooney, Kevin
$700,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
NJD
Carrick, Connor
$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
NJD
Hayden, John
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Hall, T.
Hughes, J.
Kane, P.
Butcher, W.
Subban, P.
Power Play 2
Gusev, N.
Zajac, T.
Palmieri, K.
Marleau, P.
Severson, D.
Penalty Kill 1
Zacha, P.
Simmonds, W.
Greene, A.
Severson, D.
Penalty Kill 2
Coleman, B.
Bratt, J.
Mueller, M.
DeMelo, D.

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Aug 20, 2019 at 3:27
#1
Banned
Joined: Feb 2019
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If Stan says no, he should quit
Aug 20, 2019 at 3:27
#2
KomoravLafreniere
Joined: Mar 2019
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As good as Kane is I think Chicago accepts
Aug 20, 2019 at 3:29
#3
KFTW
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 12,197
Likes: 3,591
Quoting: klondikebar
As good as Kane is I think Chicago accepts


Obvs lol. A #1C, their top 2 prospects, a middle 6 winger and 2 1sts rounders
Aug 20, 2019 at 3:31
#4
master of coin
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 139
Likes: 93
Hope Stan uses lube. Christ that is a return if I've ever seen one.
Csick123, Barbs, AndrewLadd and 2 others liked this.
Aug 20, 2019 at 3:31
#5
Banned
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 1,341
Likes: 241
@Stan_Bowman u getting fired today or not
Aug 20, 2019 at 3:32
#6
xexus101
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 47
Likes: 26
I doubt Chicago would even entertain that, from the moves they're making, it seems like they'll keep their main core and keep trying to build around and go for it anyways - Especially with Kane having an unbelievable season in his 30s and no sign of regression. Miles Wood looks meh, Ty Smith and Jesper Boqvist have yet to prove they're another more than a B level prospect. Even Hischier hasn't broken out yet as a #1 Center.
And Ottawa management is too foolish to take on poor contracts for picks! squinting with tongue out
But you're right, this is all for fun. And when it comes to fun, seeing Kane and Hall play on the same line is very much so.

Quick sidenote - BRUTAL Center Depth tears of joy
Aug 20, 2019 at 3:33
#7
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 327
Likes: 92
I just can't see the Devils doing this. The Blackhawks absolutely accept.
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Aug 20, 2019 at 3:34
#8
Melnyk_0ut
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 326
Likes: 78
I wish Ottawa got this return for Erik Karlsson
Aug 20, 2019 at 3:38
#9
Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 2,020
Likes: 263
I like this. Issues- Marleau doesn’t sign for 1 mil. Devils would need to sign... hall which will be 11 mil- Simmonds (if they want him), bratt, demelo, Zacha, mueller, and Blackwood... they won’t have so much cap
Aug 20, 2019 at 4:00
#10
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 388
Likes: 142
on the one hand, CHI should say yes. this is a complete reset on their roster and sets them up for a decade.

on the other hand, if i'm CHI and i'm dealing kane, i really want to get off the seabrook contract as part of the deal. CHI will be hamstrung by that contract for another half a decade and a kane trade is the best way to get it off the books.
Aug 20, 2019 at 4:03
#11
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 31,958
Likes: 8,195
Convincing Hall to stay? If it's just $$$$, the Devils are one of few teams that has cap next year.
Aug 26, 2019 at 2:05
#12
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 386
Likes: 133
My freaking god this is so awful
 
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