if they were looking for 4 years at 9.5 the deal would already be done with the leafs. They want more...
so they would not sign that offer sheet.

If a GM is going to offer Marner an offer sheet, likely knowing full well that Toronto will match unless it's for four 1st round picks, they should max out the dollar value so it's not four 1sts.

4 years @ $10,568,588/year

Toronto can match, but then they have to give him more than they want to pay him without buying up a single UFA year. Worst case scenario for Toronto IMO.

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think a 4-yr offer would ever be offered up by TOR. It walks him right into UFA.

There is no such thing as an offersheet

They wont do a 4 or 5 year deal

It only works if you wave your hand while you say it

I know it would not be. Im going off his offer sheet theory. Leafs would not offer that... and from marner side he would not take it either. since at one point he was looking for around the same as matthews 11M
why would he settle for 9.5 now from another team....

great i know that. that why im saying it wont happen.

Who is they? If you mean the Maple Leafs, they don't have much say in the matter if another team offers a 4-year deal and Marner's camp accepts. They can match or let Marner walk and take the draft picks as compensation. I think getting only 2x 1st round picks, a 2nd, and a 3rd in exchange for Marner would cost Dubas his job, so I think Toronto would match.

The more important question is will Marner's camp accept a 4 year @ $10.5M offer sheet knowing full well it could mean the end of his tenure in Toronto.

The one offersheet this offseason was on aho. He didnt even talk to the canadians gm. All it did was sign a reasonable contract. The only offersheet in the past few years was a joke. If there were offersheets coming (which there aren't) marner would not be going to the SHL. If an offersheet means another teams player a below market value contract then sure, that sounds great but until an offersheet is really extended there is no reason to see why that's a threat

It's the only offer sheet scenario that makes sense IMO.

The leafs. There are no offersheets coming. If there were marner wouldn't go to Sweden.

I don't see which teams could afford to pay 9.5 for that offer sheet, let alone a maxed out offer at 10.5M. Teams listed with cap space - Winnipeg, Colorado, Columbus - all have RFAs left to sign. The other ones would have to trade somehow.

Ottawa would have the space, but not the funds. In that case, however, I would probably jump on the picks.

If I have to read through the Marner garbage every day, I should at least be able to discuss one of these remote possiblities lol. If he won't sign 3 yrs x 8m, or 8 yrs x 11m, or whatever else it's speculated that TOR is offering, maybe that will spark another team to force the issue. All I'm saying.

This is true, I hadn't thought about who could actually bring an OS to the table. And even then, who would consider doing it.

I agree there's no offersheet coming, it seems very few know what's going on with teams they're not fans of but almost no teams have cap space to make an offersheet, or at least not one as big as what Marner is looking for.

Like who's got the cap space to make a $10M or more offersheet? Pretty much only Ottawa but they're broke so that's not happening.. Lol

The offersheet talk is just nonsense, it isn't happening.

Instead of saying "What the Leafs would do",,, please mention the teams(s) that have the cap room that can take on Marner this year and in future years without dismantling their team.
Posting another team with a 9.5m Addition seems to more difficult than Leafs. We know the Leafs have cap space.

Haven’t had to wave my magic hands yet. There are no sheets coming. Every gm knows it’s a negotiation tactic and both them and the owners are more interested in keeping salaries down.





Would have to think at this point it is a 2-3 year bridge or a 6 year deal.

Flyers would just need to get their 2020 3rd back I think. Senators just need a new owner. Blue Jackets are a couple picks short but I'm not polished enough on the CBA to know exactly what picks can/can't be offered as compensation (other than that they have to be their own). Montreal maybe? And the cap can be exceeded in the offseason, so if a team sees a real possibility in landing an impact player, maybe they'd take the risk of adding him and figuring out the cap after the fact. I never said this is what's going to happen, but I don't think it can be ruled out completely.

The Flyers have $13-14M in cap space but they have to sign Proverov and Koneckny yet so those two will eat up most of that. Could the Flyers offersheet Marner, sure but it means some guys would have to go so until we see some trades to make the necessary cap space for teams there's no offersheet for high priced RFAs like Marner or Point coming.

I think the only team other then Ottawa that might be able to do a large Marner/Point type offersheet would be Anaheim but that depends on guys going on LTIR like Kesler and Eaves so I'm not sure if it's even really possible for them either.

Same with the Islanders Marner offersheet rumors, they would've had to make a bunch of moves to make it work.

Seriously it's just not that simple.

I would think that if he signed a 3 year deal he would just accept his QO and become a UFA after that. I'm not sure if that's exactly how it works but if he is going to act the same way when he needs a new contract they should look at trading him

Montreal.

Trade Drouin, replace with Marner. After they trim their roster from 25 to 23, they'll be able to fit $10.5M under the cap.

Dubas frontloads the contract and pays him a salary of 750k in the third year. If he wants to sign his QO for 750k... go ahead..,

I wasnt sure if the QO was based off of actual salary or cap hit. I would take that then

It's an interesting thought exercise. Marner gets more or less what he wants. Leafs get their player signed , but at more than they'd like to pay him. Both sides kinda win, I guess..

But what would the phantom OS team get that submits an OS that's doomed to fail? Nothing at all really. There's no benefit gained. So it won't happen for that reason, is my guess. And for all the other reasons stated above.

I think the OS option was created solely for the purpose of keeping the media busy talking about something in the offseason... I mean, what else would Dreger talk about without the OS?