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Pens

Created by: Boomer125
Initial Creation Date: Nov 21, 2019
Published: Nov 21, 2019 at 2:33
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Jarry, Tristan
  3. Schultz, Justin ($2,250,000 retained)
  4. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Barrie, Tyson
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$82,353,944$0$70,000-$853,944
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
$4,100,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Shore, Nick
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Ceci, Cody
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
RFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$3,250,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1

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Nov 21, 2019 at 2:37
#1
bigZ
Joined: Jun 2019
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Take out the first and Barrie and that could be a done deal from pens side. I think Addison is more then ready to become a permanent RD to replace schultz. Although the deal with barrie is unlikely to happen. Pens really would not wanna give up a first and Jarry for Nylander and guy they cant afford in the offseason. Maybe if the first is a second it could be done. Although i see no reason for leafs to do any of the two trades i said with the mentioned players
Nov 21, 2019 at 2:38
#2
Just Keep Swimming
Joined: Jun 2018
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I've said it before and I will say it again.
The Gudbranson/JJ saga has been obscuring the fact that Schultz isn't any good.
Even with that the trade is pretty bad in general.
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Nov 21, 2019 at 2:39
#3
best poster
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oh boy, another nylander for crap trade.
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Nov 21, 2019 at 2:40
#4
Hockey Super Genius
Joined: Jun 2015
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Im a Pens fan and I say .... Yes we will take another RW cast off and win Back to back Cups again.
LOL, Just joking with ya....

But Seriously I think GMJR values Jarry wayyyy more than most think & IMO He is a legit NHL Starter who just keeps getting better and I have a really hard time seeing him trade him, but for this I would pause tho.
Nov 21, 2019 at 2:40
#5
bigZ
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 680
Likes: 310
Quoting: Random2152
I've said it before and I will say it again.
The Gudbranson/JJ saga has been obscuring the fact that Schultz isn't any good.
Even with that the trade is pretty bad in general.
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This is true, schultz is as offensive minded as a defensmen come these days. But he could be a big add if he is paired with the right LD.
Nov 21, 2019 at 2:43
#6
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 6,333
Likes: 2,405
Quoting: Random2152
I've said it before and I will say it again.
The Gudbranson/JJ saga has been obscuring the fact that Schultz isn't any good.
Even with that the trade is pretty bad in general.
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Love the large sample size, and that Schultz has been quite a bit better than Barrie every year of their careers other than last year where he was hurt for the majority of it
Nov 21, 2019 at 2:47
#7
Joined: May 2018
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I don't think this would get you Barrie and Kapanen, definitely not Nylander.
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Nov 21, 2019 at 2:47
#8
Just Keep Swimming
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Quoting: bigZ98
This is true, schultz is as offensive minded as a defensmen come these days. But he could be a big add if he is paired with the right LD.


Isn't that what we said with Barrie?

Quoting: AFOX10900
Love the large sample size, and that Schultz has been quite a bit better than Barrie every year of their careers other than last year where he was hurt for the majority of it

I can't tell if this is a sarcastic dismissal or not, but I will refer you to the Barrie trade where I explicitly say I am low on Barrie.
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Nov 21, 2019 at 2:53
#9
bigZ
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 680
Likes: 310
Quoting: Random2152
Isn't that what we said with Barrie?


I can't tell if this is a sarcastic dismissal or not, but I will refer you to the Barrie trade where I explicitly say I am low on Barrie.


Thats what i mean, i dont think the leafs are putting the correct defensemen with Barrie. Idk enough to know if the leafs have that kind of a D or not so may have to acquire one or call one up or move one in the pairings
Nov 21, 2019 at 2:55
#10
Just Keep Swimming
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Quoting: bigZ98
Thats what i mean, i dont think the leafs are putting the correct defensemen with Barrie. Idk enough to know if the leafs have that kind of a D or not so may have to acquire one or call one up or move one in the pairings


Considering what we are giving up here, the upside being a big maybe is a instant no from the Leafs considering we are giving up the guy who has been the most consistently good player on the Leafs this year.

Remember Kerfy was a huge part of the reason why that trade went through. There isn't a Kerfy in this trade.
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Nov 21, 2019 at 2:56
#11
Thread Starter
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Quoting: bigZ98
Thats what i mean, i dont think the leafs are putting the correct defensemen with Barrie. Idk enough to know if the leafs have that kind of a D or not so may have to acquire one or call one up or move one in the pairings


There is nothing wrong with Barrie and he is paired with Muzzin, Babs just figured Muzz should move the puck while Barrie stays home, very good reason why Babs is now a spectator until the sharks get fed up and hire him
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Nov 21, 2019 at 2:58
#12
bigZ
Joined: Jun 2019
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Quoting: Random2152
Considering what we are giving up here, the upside being a big maybe is a instant no from the Leafs considering we are giving up the guy who has been the most consistently good player on the Leafs this year.

Remember Kerfy was a huge part of the reason why that trade went through. There isn't a Kerfy in this trade.


Youre not wrong, i am totally not arguing that you should do this trade. If you look at my first comment i say that there is no reason for the leafs to do a trade like that.
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Nov 21, 2019 at 2:59
#13
bigZ
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 680
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Quoting: Boomer125
There is nothing wrong with Barrie and he is paired with Muzzin, Babs just figured Muzz should move the puck while Barrie stays home, very good reason why Babs is now a spectator until the sharks get fed up and hire him


You know, Babcock actually might be a good coach for the sharks. A physical and gritty team, with vets and young guys who might adjust well to babcocks playing style
Nov 21, 2019 at 3:24
#14
Leafs GM v4
Joined: Feb 2018
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This is an awful trade
 
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