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Tampa is here by blown up at TDL

Created by: BOLTLOVER1
Initial Creation Date: Dec 9, 2019
Published: Dec 9, 2019 at 11:20 pm
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
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That's it for Tampa .. Wylie E. Coyote time

1. EMPTY seats everywhere.. hundreds of tickets available for under $75 some center ice lower level. Fans have had it. No energy and players have quit.

2. Have only beaten ONE playoff team since OCTOBER .. almost 50 days now.

3. Jon Cooper career loser .. period. NO NHL COACH HAS COACHED THIS LONG WITHOUT WINNING A CUP .. FACT. Emotionless AHL coach.

3. We playing guys like Verhageue Conacher Joseph Schenn Stephen's .. STOP the comments about this being an uber Talented team .. true hockey fans knew this and it started in 2018 .. that's right 2018 ..

4. Stamkos is most over rated player in NHL. He sucks. He only has a one time PP shot but is a MINUS 10 on year .
Worst on team.. his defense is atrocious and lowest goal % per shot.

BOTTOM LINE .. season over with Cooper Stamkos and the joke GM .. better off trading and moving on .. there is a HUGE talent gap on this team and people that watch every game CLEARLY see this .. blow it up now!!!!!! .. there is big risk Tampa turns into Florida Panthers within 3 years
Buyouts
  • Matthew Carle: $1,833,333
  • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
Buried
  • Mike Condon: $1,325,000 ($2,400,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TBL
VAN
TBL
TBL
TBL
DET
TBL
OTT
TBL
2021
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
NSH
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$80,531,664$0$1,362,500$968,336
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TBL
Johnson, Tyler
$5,000,000
LW, C, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
$8,500,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
TBL
Killorn, Alex
$4,450,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4
TBL
Point, Brayden
$6,750,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
$5,300,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
TBL
Maroon, Patrick
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TBL
Paquette, Cédric
$1,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
$5,166,666
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
$728,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TBL
Stephens, Mitchell
$833,333
C
RFA - 1
TBL
Conacher, Cory
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
$728,333
C
RFA - 1
TBL
Verhaeghe, Carter
$700,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TBL
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
TBL
Shattenkirk, Kevin
$1,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
TBL
Rutta, Jan
$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
$1,300,000
G
UFA - 2
TBL
Coburn, Braydon
$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Schenn, Luke
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
$894,166
LD
RFA - 1
TBL
Cernak, Erik
$697,500
RD
RFA - 1

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Dec 9, 2019 at 11:22
#1
Vegas Arm GM
Joined: Aug 2019
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And the fact that Serg will most likely be offer sheeted by Detroit
I mean it’s picks
Vasi 9.5?
Gourde T.J. And Palats deals
The only bright spot is ALEX KILLORN
Dec 9, 2019 at 11:26
#2
MisstheWhalers
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Who handed out all those No trade and No move clauses?
Dec 9, 2019 at 11:39
#3
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BOLT LOVER
Joined: Dec 2018
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The GM is JBB and he started last year so he on hook for Gourde NTC ..nothing at TDL last year and signing Cooper long term WEEK BEFORE PLAYOFFS!!! .. he has been around for awhile .. he washed Yzermans balls for years so he involved with most all NTCs .. Tampa is an unmitigated disaster with only a half the team truly useful NHL players..
Dec 9, 2019 at 11:53
#4
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,513
Likes: 554
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Dec 10, 2019 at 1:22
#5
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 745
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Coops is at 535 games
Did Lindy Ruff ever win a cup? 1493 games coached.
Barry Trotz went 15 seasons in Nashville, then a couple in Washington before winning a cup.

Thats not even digging.

I do believe something needs to change but theres plenty wrong with the team without you having to make up facts to support your argument.
Dec 10, 2019 at 5:10
#6
Thread Starter
BOLT LOVER
Joined: Dec 2018
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Your wrong.. consecutive seasons with one team moron not career .. be better Forrest
Dec 10, 2019 at 5:51
#7
Go Boltz! & Go Avs!
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 330
Likes: 66
Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
Your wrong.. consecutive seasons with one team moron not career .. be better Forrest


The only wrong thing about your rage in your thread is that we are still top16 NHL team, so what the other 15 teams should do? Who are way worse then us...
I watched couple days ago powerrankings video, someone considers us still top13... that's not that bad right? you can't always be top3 team in the NHL every season... I agree we can't expect a huge playoffs run, but it's not that easy to fix, just 1 coaching change doesn't solve all our problems in 1 second...(for St. Louis last year it did though haha, good for them...)

But you have a point about Cooper:
Toronto had same issues: they fired Babcock
New Jersey: lost a lot of games:fired their coach

BUT does BriseBois has the BALLZ to do it, before season is over? I think he just doesn't do it as a "rookie" GM this early... So i expect no changes in december...
In january/feb we'll see... maybe more chance there if we keep losing a lot... but maybe we will start to win games like tmrw vs Florida Panthers should be an easy win right?... i know vs bad teams we win only: but a win is a win right ?Huh? cheers

Dallas Cowboys in the NFL will make the playoffs with a losing record and they are not firing their coach for years, yet the results similar to tampa. Talented team and yet years after years = no playoffs success.
His name is Jason Garrett and almost every person would have fired him by now, he is still coaching the cowboys without any purpose/passion for years...
It's sucks, but Cooper has 0.640 win% since he is here in tampa, so i expect the same... he stays for a while... I know every fan dreams about the playoffs+cup... but until we are not out of playoffs race... i think our GM just doesn't make this drastical change midseason... he looks like a conservative GM(from the way he talks like an analytic guy and not emotional) , who only makes changes, when it's needed...

Do you think, that he thinks right now it's the time for a coaching change? I don't think so... Maybe the empty seats will convince him.. idk... im allin for a coaching change... the sooner the better...
Today i watched the post match interview with cooper, he is like lost there on the podium, he just doesn't have answers why we play like this all the time this season + vs capitals playoffs game6+7 + columbus series + a lot this year in reg season...
Dec 10, 2019 at 6:41
#8
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BOLT LOVER
Joined: Dec 2018
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Cooper should be fired b4 lunch today.. we have 3 games left this week.. at Florida (who are rested and a BETTER team) Bruins (although they have Caps night b4 Tampa so I see a win) and then the Caps .. if they go 0-3 or 1-2 .. season over Disneylanders .. and coach DOES make huge difference.. You are right Cooper is lost and only comfortable with "his guys" from Syracuse .. and again longest tenure with one team in NHL without a Cup .. should have been fired after Columbus not extended.. actually should have been fired after blowing 3 to 2 lead to Caps in 2018 losing games 6 and 7 on TWO shutouts the mis management is astounding in Tampa.. more empty seats will also weigh in as that matters to a regular season team .. arena looked like Florida last night
Dec 10, 2019 at 6:45
#9
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,099
Likes: 260
I just hope JBB is not as soft as he looks. Hopefully he has balls to admit his own mistakes and make them right. Not scared of making some big changes.
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Dec 10, 2019 at 7:48
#10
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Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
Your wrong.. consecutive seasons with one team moron not career .. be better Forrest


Trotz coached Nashville for 15 seasons without a cup. But you know, good sass on your part.
Dec 10, 2019 at 12:39
#11
Matthew Bailey
Joined: Sep 2019
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Quoting: StoneFan
And the fact that Serg will most likely be offer sheeted by Detroit
I mean it’s picks
Vasi 9.5?
Gourde T.J. And Palats deals
The only bright spot is ALEX KILLORN


We won't offersheet if it costs our 1st/3rd. The only offersheet we would consider is the one for just a 2nd, which you guys would probably match. A trade is more likely, something with more value than a 2nd, but less than the 1st/3rd.
Dec 10, 2019 at 12:57
#12
Jah1722
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Don’t you ever get embarrassed? You’re embarrassing yourself here. You’re throwing a 2 year old tantrum over a hockey team in a public forum. That’s not healthy.
Dec 10, 2019 at 1:06
#13
best poster
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Dec 10, 2019 at 4:25
#14
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"The joke GM"? Really?
Jesus ****ing Christ, what a bunch of ungrateful ****s.

JBB pulled off an insane summer, got Point and Vasi signed, got Shattenkirk to sign a joke of a deal + Maroon to address the lack of physical rustiness. And he's now a joke because he didn't deal Gourde?
Just letting you know that Gourde is doing ****ing fine this season, the dead weights on our roster are currently Johnson and Joseph (who, is my assumption, will be used as a trade bait at the trade deadline).
Gourde? He's playing great. Palat? He's probably playing his best all around season with the Bolts so far.

You complain about the joke of a GM? Because he hasn't fired Cooper yet? Put yourself in his position. You fire Cooper, who you get to coach the team? Willy Wonka? This is probably the hardest time in recent memory for a team to find a coach, with all the scandals and **** going on. Cooper will sooner or later be fired if the trend doesn't change, but it's definitely not an easy decision for JBB, especially with what the coaches market is offering right now.
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Dec 10, 2019 at 6:24
#15
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Quoting: Zwui21
"The joke GM"? Really?
Jesus ****ing Christ, what a bunch of ungrateful ****s.

JBB pulled off an insane summer, got Point and Vasi signed, got Shattenkirk to sign a joke of a deal + Maroon to address the lack of physical rustiness. And he's now a joke because he didn't deal Gourde?
Just letting you know that Gourde is doing ****ing fine this season, the dead weights on our roster are currently Johnson and Joseph (who, is my assumption, will be used as a trade bait at the trade deadline).
Gourde? He's playing great. Palat? He's probably playing his best all around season with the Bolts so far.

You complain about the joke of a GM? Because he hasn't fired Cooper yet? Put yourself in his position. You fire Cooper, who you get to coach the team? Willy Wonka? This is probably the hardest time in recent memory for a team to find a coach, with all the scandals and **** going on. Cooper will sooner or later be fired if the trend doesn't change, but it's definitely not an easy decision for JBB, especially with what the coaches market is offering right now.


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Dec 10, 2019 at 7:41
#16
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BOLT LOVER
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Edited Dec 10, 2019 at 8:31
YANNI GOURDE .. 32M contract with a NTC for a FOURTH LINER!! .. he is good 4th liner as I have been saying for years and reality finally hit.. JBB is to 100% blame for this contract.. Gourde has already cost us JT Miller..who is tied with Kuch in points this year at Vancouver!!!! .. and could cost us Killorn this Summer .. UNFORGIVABLE.. and u know it. On side note I agree Johnson and Joseph hurting team on 3rd line is. Biggest on ice issue other than our goalies suck .. but your logic on Cooper is flawed .. it's the chicken @#$$ logic oc we wouldn't know who is coach so lets not go anything .. disgusting
Dec 24, 2019 at 2:50
#17
Go Boltz! & Go Avs!
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Edited Dec 24, 2019 at 2:58
Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
YANNI GOURDE .. 32M contract with a NTC for a FOURTH LINER!! .. he is good 4th liner as I have been saying for years and reality finally hit.. JBB is to 100% blame for this contract.. Gourde has already cost us JT Miller..who is tied with Kuch in points this year at Vancouver!!!! .. and could cost us Killorn this Summer .. UNFORGIVABLE.. and u know it. On side note I agree Johnson and Joseph hurting team on 3rd line is. Biggest on ice issue other than our goalies suck .. but your logic on Cooper is flawed .. it's the chicken @#$$ logic oc we wouldn't know who is coach so lets not go anything .. disgusting


Joseph sent down to Syracuse, they are slow(coaching staff), but they did the right thing smile Oh man, he was bad all year... Stephens looks promising though cool At least he can defend! wink

I suspect same will happen to Cooper, this freakin Dallas game i'm so mad about: 2 bad line changes and we lost... i wanna cry in a corner how the hell you can't manage a line change vs a team who only scores goals with the rush... result = 2 goals allowed on the rush... because of those idk how i call them "garbage line changes". We should have won that game 100/100 times. I've never seen a team that slow and bad as Dallas Stars were that night... and we lost to them... jesus...

And i picked Dallas to win the Stanley-cup, after this game... i'm never picking them again for the stanley cup... everybody will look noob in my eyes... who thinks Dallas will win anything... they were 10 times worse then us and we scored 3 goals in 50 shots and 45 minute offensive zone playtime... what the hell our 9.5 million $ goalie is doing nowadays? Does he want to go back to AHL? He is nothing like he was last year. It hurts me to say this but Vasi = really bad this year, i thought for months our defense is horrible but now he gets goals which other goalies easily block...

VASI JUST WAKE UP PLEASEEE! frown

Also Kucherov got benched in a 3rd period, that's insane, because of 1 bad giveaway... idk why anyone would think that's a good idea to bench your best player...
Is Crosby or McDavid gets the same treatment after 1 givewaway puck which ends up as goal???(because our goalie sucks again...)

I think Cooper is just too safe... he thinks he can coach all 82 games... he answered to some reporter question... : ask me after 82 games over...
 
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