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If we are buying - MTL

Created by: Jetman
Initial Creation Date: Jan 23, 2020
Published: Jan 23 at 11:43 am
Team: 2019-20 Winnipeg Jets
Trades
WPG
  1. Petry, Jeff ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. 2020 4th round pick (WPG)
MTL
  1. Roslovic, Jack
  2. Stanley, Logan
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (WPG)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,215,355$0$167,500$4,284,645
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 7
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
UFA - 5
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Laine, Patrik
$6,750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,666
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,916,666
C
UFA - 2
WPG
Perreault, Mathieu
$4,125,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
$767,500
C
RFA - 1
WPG
Shore, Nick
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$741,667
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$3,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 5
WPG
Niku, Sami
$775,000
RD
RFA - 1
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$4,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
$1,225,000
G
UFA - 1
WPG
Kulikov, Dmitry
$4,333,333
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Bourque, Gabriel
$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
WPG
Letestu, Mark
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
WPG
Bitetto, Anthony
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
WPG
Byfuglien, Dustin
$7,600,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
WPG
Sbisa, Luca
$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan 23 at 11:50
#1
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,221
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MTL fans are gonna say "Petry starts with a 1st" and IMO, the jets shouldnt be trading that away...not this years anyways
Jan 23 at 11:51
#2
Joined: Aug 2019
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matthews>laine
Jan 23 at 11:59
#3
Boris Bagel
Joined: Oct 2016
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Edited Jan 23 at 12:05
Habs won't trade Petry unless there's a 1st coming back or Jets offer at least one high-end young player/prospect... Roslovic and Roslovic are not enough

something similar to the Max Pac deal with Vegas ...
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Jan 23 at 12:13
#4
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Jetsfan
Joined: Sep 2017
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Quoting: masterjuddi
MTL fans are gonna say "Petry starts with a 1st" and IMO, the jets shouldnt be trading that away...not this years anyways


The jets won't be trading their 1st...thats why its a few picks, a young roster F and a D prospect
Jan 23 at 12:14
#5
Thread Starter
Jetsfan
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Likes: 643
Quoting: BorisBagel
Habs won't trade Petry unless there's a 1st coming back or Jets offer at least one high-end young player/prospect... Roslovic and Roslovic are not enough

something similar to the Max Pac deal with Vegas ...


Sorry but Petry isnt a Pac....A captain vs a 2nd line RD...
Jan 23 at 12:21
#6
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 338
Likes: 131
Quoting: Jetman
Sorry but Petry isnt a Pac....A captain vs a 2nd line RD...


Your right, Petry has more value. Pacioretty had 1 year, Petry has 1 plus the remainder of this season. Pacioretty, a scoring winger, was coming off of an injury shortened season where his scoring rate would have had him scoring sub 50 even if he played the full 82, while Petry is a dman on pace for his 3rd straight 40+ point season and has missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons.
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Jan 23 at 12:21
#7
MisstheWhalers
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 6,692
Likes: 2,206
They absolutely shouldn't be buyers, not for Petry anyway.
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Jan 23 at 12:36
#8
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 599
Likes: 137
Quoting: BorisBagel
Habs won't trade Petry unless there's a 1st coming back or Jets offer at least one high-end young player/prospect... Roslovic and Roslovic are not enough

something similar to the Max Pac deal with Vegas ...


Pacioretty agreed to a 4 year extension and had a history of 30+ goal seasons. Petry will be 33 at the end of his deal next year. Not the same situation AT ALL.


Jets shouldn't be buying anyway.
Jan 23 at 12:50
#9
Sala91
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 79
Likes: 16
Quoting: J2W
Your right, Petry has more value. Pacioretty had 1 year, Petry has 1 plus the remainder of this season. Pacioretty, a scoring winger, was coming off of an injury shortened season where his scoring rate would have had him scoring sub 50 even if he played the full 82, while Petry is a dman on pace for his 3rd straight 40+ point season and has missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons.


In a vacuum, if we add lesser pieces, we could get a better player (1+1+1+1=4) right? But in reality, there are no needle mover in the original proposal. If we compare Petry to Pacioretty, one is a #2-3 D in a position extremly valuable (right d) while the other is a top level second line forward in a position less valuable (lw). Pacioretty still got a lesser second line forward, a top prospect and a second round pick. Jake Muzzin got a first round pick and two b prospects.

If Winnipeg doesn't want or can't give a first or a top prospect, maybe there isn't a deal to be made. There are worst thing than that in life.
Jan 23 at 12:58
#10
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 1,147
Likes: 249
Quoting: Jetman
Sorry but Petry isnt a Pac....A captain vs a 2nd line RD...


Pacioretty was a great goal scorer, but terrible captain.
Petry would be the 1st line RD on most team. Hard to blame him for playing behind Weber.
Jan 23 at 1:52
#11
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 748
Likes: 189
To everyone who said that WPG shouldnt move their first pick, I respect that. What if it's a lottery protected first? This way if you guys miss playoffs, you keep it. Does it makes everyone happy ?
Jan 23 at 2:07
#12
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 1,443
Likes: 216
Quoting: Jetman
Sorry but Petry isnt a Pac....A captain vs a 2nd line RD...


Petry > Muzzin look at the Muzzin's return
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Jan 23 at 6:54
#13
Thread Starter
Jetsfan
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 3,130
Likes: 643
Quoting: RobbStark03
Pacioretty was a great goal scorer, but terrible captain.
Petry would be the 1st line RD on most team. Hard to blame him for playing behind Weber.


He wouldnt be on our team either....or STL, COL, LAK, SJS, CAR, VAN, EDM, BOS, NYR, NYI....Do I have to go on???
Jan 23 at 6:54
#14
Thread Starter
Jetsfan
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Quoting: KCarry74
To everyone who said that WPG shouldnt move their first pick, I respect that. What if it's a lottery protected first? This way if you guys miss playoffs, you keep it. Does it makes everyone happy ?


I would accept that...a 2nd if the Jets miss, a 1st if they make it
 
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