Looking Back On The Phil Kessel Trade

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Created by: AnalyticsGeek

Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 30, 2020

Published: Jan. 30, 2020

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The off-season Phil Kessel trade was addition by subtraction because Phil’s laziness and attitude was killing the team. He didnt have the intensity to play for Sullivan and needed a fresh start. Even though the return the team got in Alex Galchenyuk didn’t work out, they are still a better team. That said, I do think Jim Rutherford could’ve got something more for a top player like Phil Kessel. What’d you guys think?

Trades

PIT

Barrett Hayton

ARI

Phil Kessel

Buried

Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$59,265,375	$132,500	$850,000	$22,234,625

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
McCann, Jared $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Simon, Dominik $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 4
Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 6
Galchenyuk, Alex $4,900,000$4,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1	Agozzino, Andrew $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Angello, Anthony $833,750$833,750 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Johnson, Jack $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 4	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt $3,750,000$3,750,000 G UFA - 1
Pettersson, Marcus $874,125$874,125 LD UFA - 1	Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 1
Riikola, Juuso $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Kahun, Dominik $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW, C UFA - 1
		Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5
		Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 2
		Schultz, Justin $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4

Jan. 30, 2020 at 6:59 p.m.

ClockReads2113

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Are you saying they could have gotten Hayton? Because no way were they going to get him. Don't know if PIT could have gotten anymore for him because his NTC.

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Jan. 30, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.

AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

Are you saying they could have gotten Hayton? Because no way were they going to get him. Don't know if PIT could have gotten anymore for him because his NTC.

I do think Hayton’s value was too high but maybe they could’ve gone after someone like Garland instead.

Jan. 30, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.

Dan10900

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They def could have gotten "more" (by now I mean a competent NHLer and not bad spec, who had way higher value then compared to now) but no where close to Hayton

Jan. 30, 2020 at 7:31 p.m.

aedoran

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Isn't Galchenyuk just as lazy as Phil? I've heard that but I don't know.

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Jan. 30, 2020 at 7:32 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

Are you saying they could have gotten Hayton? Because no way were they going to get him. Don't know if PIT could have gotten anymore for him because his NTC.

Exactly. His NTC hurt his value. We were boxed in a corner. I would’ve loved a patcioretty return but that clearly didn’t happen

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Jan. 30, 2020 at 7:32 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: aedoran

Isn't Galchenyuk just as lazy as Phil? I've heard that but I don't know.

Worse

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Jan. 30, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.

Boomer125

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It was Kessels NTC that limited the return, but hey he helped to hoist 2 cups, was a fantastic playoff performer so not a loss at all

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Jan. 30, 2020 at 7:36 p.m.

mondo

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You, yesterday:

Quoting: MikeyThePensFan

Penguins fans loved Kessel but the media hated him so they ran him out of town.

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Jan. 30, 2020 at 9:02 p.m.

dgfresh78

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Quoting: AFOX10900

They def could have gotten "more" (by now I mean a competent NHLer and not bad spec, who had way higher value then compared to now) but no where close to Hayton

Hinostroza and POJ or a lesser prospect would have been great.

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Jan. 30, 2020 at 10:01 p.m.

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F50marco

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I mean, is it really worth dwelling on? Pens basically got Kessel for a song, solidified two stanley cups as a result of him and essentially got rid of his contract wiht barely aking any cap back long term. (Not too mention that it looks like Kessel is taking a step back this year to boot)

Gms would kill for this level of amazingness in a 4 year span. I think you can survive without fleecing Arizona on this one.

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Jan. 30, 2020 at 11:57 p.m.

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I think the penguins are happy to be out of that contract.
They got 2 cups and dished off the last years of that deal while he was clearly declining.
I will say one thing though. Their power play really misses Kessel. You can say what ever you will. If they could have kept Phil as a 4th liner on a low contract to just do the PP, it would have been great. But it is what it is.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:04 a.m.

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Quoting: aedoran

Isn't Galchenyuk just as lazy as Phil? I've heard that but I don't know.

Quoting: mhockey91

Worse

Yeah Galchenyuk doesn’t back check, he isn’t aggressive away from the puck and he offers no physicality.

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Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:07 a.m.

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Quoting: mondo

You, yesterday:

Well, just because the fans love him doesn’t mean that they acknowledge he didn’t fit the team.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:10 a.m.

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Quoting: Boomer125

It was Kessels NTC that limited the return, but hey he helped to hoist 2 cups, was a fantastic playoff performer so not a loss at all

Quoting: F50marco

Yeah I’m sure there are no regrets about bringing Kessel to the team. He gave the organization exactly what they were looking for. It doesn’t get much better than that.

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