ripping off Florida

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Created by: mhockey91

Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 19, 2020

Published: Feb. 19, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

BUF

Trocheck, Vincent

Additional Details:

we all know Risto sucks but he has a high perceived value. Apparently Florida is shopping Trochek for a "Top 4 RHD".

FLA

Ristolainen, Rasmus
2020 1st round pick (BUF)

Additional Details:

2020 Top 10 protected. if Buffalo picks top 10, pick moves to 2021

Buyouts

Buried

Matt Hunwick: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$77,121,667	$0	$3,832,500	$4,378,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Olofsson, Victor $767,500$767,500 ($132,500$132K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 7	Reinhart, Sam $3,650,000$3,650,000 RW UFA - 1
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Trocheck, Vincent $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Johansson, Marcus $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Frolík, Michael $4,300,000$4,300,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Rodrigues, Evan $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Sheary, Conor $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Girgensons, Zemgus $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 4
Sobotka, Vladimír $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LD/RD UFA - 2	Montour, Brandon $3,387,500$3,387,500 RD UFA - 1	Ullmark, Linus $1,325,000$1,325,000 G UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,850,000$2,850,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Jokiharju, Henri $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 2	Hutton, Carter $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Pilut, Lawrence $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) LD UFA - 1	Miller, Colin $3,875,000$3,875,000 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Larsson, Johan $1,550,000$1,550,000 C, LW UFA - 1
Vesey, Jimmy $2,275,000$2,275,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Bogosian, Zach $1,300,000$1,300,000 RD UFA - 1

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:15 a.m.

wojme

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Ripping off would not be adding the first

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Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.

JOFA

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Seems like Buffalo is getting ripped off here lol

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Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.

newballcoach

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The lottery protection on that pick needs more explaining. Lottery protected this year to unprotected next year? 2021 lottery protected again moving to 2022? Moves to a 2nd/3rd combo? You can't just say lottery protected because what the protection actually is makes a big difference.

Also I don't see the Panthers trading Trochek.

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Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:18 a.m.

NHLfan10506

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My guess is that Panthers would prefer to trade from off their current roster if they can. And there is plenty to pick from.

Maybe Tippett or Denisenko (or even Borgstrom) in Risto deal.

FLA would have to make salary work in separate deal.

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:23 a.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: wojme

Ripping off would not be adding the first

Quoting: JOFA

Seems like Buffalo is getting ripped off here lol

Because Risto has such a high perceived value but he actually stinks. Buffalo would walk away like bandits

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:25 a.m.

sabres89

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Quoting: newballcoach

I cant see the sabres moving a top 10 pick, which is where it will be. I assume "lottery protected" means- if you win a 1-3 lottery spot, but others may see it differently.

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:26 a.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I agree I just saw a tweet.

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1229916707717775361?s=20

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:27 a.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: newballcoach

you're absolutely right, I just wasn't sure what conditions I should put. maybe top 5 protected and then it moves to 2021?

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:27 a.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: sabres89

I cant see the sabres moving a top 10 pick, which is where it will be. I assume "lottery protected" means- if you win a 1-3 lottery spot, but others may see it differently.

maybe top 5 protected

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Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:28 a.m.

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JOFA

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Quoting: mhockey91

Because Risto has such a high perceived value but he actually stinks. Buffalo would walk away like bandits

It's Buffalo though. Risto will probably become great, the pick they get turns into a franchise player, and Trochek will not workout.

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Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:29 a.m.

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sabres89

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Quoting: mhockey91

Because Risto has such a high perceived value but he actually stinks. Buffalo would walk away like bandits

You think that buffalo adding a top 10 pick in a solid draft has them walking away like bandits here?

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:33 a.m.

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newballcoach

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Quoting: mhockey91

maybe top 5 protected

So for instance, the Leafs pick this year is top-10 protected, and if their pick is in the top-10 it moves to 2021 unprotected. The "lottery" is technically every pick in the top 15, and since Buffalo will finish there, it's not a great condition.

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:41 a.m.

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Kosterjr

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Cats don’t want Risto, they are looking for a top pair LHD not right.

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:49 a.m.

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saburs

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A more likely trade would be Ristolainen and a conditional 2021 2nd (turns into first if Sabres make 2021 Playoffs) for Trocheck

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.

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asauer1122

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how in the world is this florida getting ripped off

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:56 a.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: asauer1122

how in the world is this florida getting ripped off

because Risto sucks. but you're right a top 10 pick has some value. maybe make it 2021 first?

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: sabres89

You think that buffalo adding a top 10 pick in a solid draft has them walking away like bandits here?

you're right, a top 10 pick for Trochek is already a decent return. Make it a 2020 first round pick top 10 protected, if not, 2021 first

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:58 a.m.

#18

mhockey91

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Quoting: newballcoach

make it the same conditions as the leafs first. ill edit the trade

Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:58 a.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: Kosterjr

Cats don’t want Risto, they are looking for a top pair LHD not right.

just a tweet I saw

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