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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 7, 2020
Published: Apr. 8, 2020
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2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
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5$4,500,000
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2$3,750,000
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    Offer me a top 6 forward, all of these players, picks and prospects on the table.
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    1. Borgen, William
    2. Bryson, Jacob
    3. Davidsson, Marcus
    4. Hutton, Carter
    5. Johnson, Ryan
    6. Laaksonen, Oskari
    7. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
    8. McCabe, Jake
    9. Pekar, Matej
    10. Ristolainen, Rasmus
    11. Samuelsson, Mattias
    12. Thompson, Tage
    13. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
    14. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
    15. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
    16. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
    17. 2022 1st round pick (BUF)
    18. 2022 2nd round pick (BUF)
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    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
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    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    C
    UFA - 6
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    RW, LW
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    2nd Line, Center
    $700,000$700,000
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    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $1,000,000$1,000,000
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    RFA - 1
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    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $845,000$845,000
    LW, C
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    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, C
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
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    UFA - 1
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
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    RFA - 1
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
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    RD
    UFA - 1
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
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    LD
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 11:42 a.m.
    #26
    Hop on the Slaftrain
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    Phillip Danault for your top 10 protected 2020 pick
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.
    #27
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    Quoting: SammyT_51
    Laaksonen imo. And it might even be a bigger deal of some sorts tbh.


    who?
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 11:44 a.m.
    #28
    Brad Boyes please Wq
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    dude Lehner is elite


    We can’t keep Lehner unless you’re willing to take Fleury, but we get back Vesey and a few Picks(high end)
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: wojme
    Ya, who needs elite goalie prospects when you have an elite starting goalie and good backup... Oh wait. UPL isn't someone you just trade for a top 6 forward. That would be a ridiculous mistake by management.


    okay I'm sure Jack would be totally on board if I became GM and came to him one on one " Hey captain I know your sick of losing for your enitire career here so far in Buffalo (just like everybody else is for the past like 10 years) but if you just wait maybe like 3 more years of sucking we got this young goalie kid who has never played an NHL game before but I know he is what will turn this franchise around so just keep waiting bud!"
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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    Phillip Danault for your top 10 protected 2020 pick



    deallllll
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 11:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: MaxDomi13
    who?


    RD prospect who would likely be stuck behind guys in Buffalo.
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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    krejci for 2020 1st.
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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    krejci for 2020 1st.


    tempting but nah
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 12:12 p.m.
    #34
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    likely no but of course depends on what your offer is


    What's Dahlin worth? How do Buffalo fans feel about him 2 years in?
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 12:16 p.m.
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    Tanner Glass for UPL, Eichel, and a 1st
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    What's Dahlin worth? How do Buffalo fans feel about him 2 years in?


    Hes an absolute prodigy....

    Players I'd maybe trade him for:

    McDavid
    Mackinnon
    Draisaitl
    Matthews
    Pettersson
    Kucherov
    Pastrnak
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
    #37
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    Tanner Glass for UPL, Eichel, and a 1st

    lol
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 12:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    Hes an absolute prodigy....

    Players I'd maybe trade him for:

    McDavid
    Mackinnon
    Draisaitl
    Matthews
    Pettersson
    Kucherov
    Pastrnak


    I guess he'll never get moved then. By his second season McDavid was the best offensive player in the world; Dahlin isn't in the top-10 at his position yet. From his first shift in the league McDavid was facing top shutdown defensemen every night and thriving, whereas Dahlin was the most sheltered defenseman on the entire Buffalo roster this year and played a 3rd pairing role last year. Despite the massive sheltering going on, he's really only just breaking even in most shot metrics:

    51.44 CF%
    50.66 FF%
    49.86 SF%
    52.22 GF%
    49.25 xGF%
    61.24 Off. Zone Start%
    1.007 PDO

    He's good and he's only going to get better, but he isn't at McDavid's level and never will be. He isn't in the same echelon as the players you mention.
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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    Edited Apr. 8, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.
    Quoting: CD282
    I guess he'll never get moved then. By his second season McDavid was the best offensive player in the world; Dahlin isn't in the top-10 at his position yet. From his first shift in the league McDavid was facing top shutdown defensemen every night and thriving, whereas Dahlin was the most sheltered defenseman on the entire Buffalo roster this year and played a 3rd pairing role last year. Despite the massive sheltering going on, he's really only just breaking even in most shot metrics:

    51.44 CF%
    50.66 FF%
    49.86 SF%
    52.22 GF%
    49.25 xGF%
    61.24 Off. Zone Start%
    1.007 PDO

    He's good and he's only going to get better, but he isn't at McDavid's level and never will be. He isn't in the same echelon as the players you mention.




    ya I mean I never compared him to McDavid? You asked who I would trade him for and those are the players I would consider. Dahlin isnt top 10 yet but he is definitely a top 20 LD as a teenager and D-men typically take a little longer to develop. he broke Bobby Orr records not a big deal

    I have no doubt in my mind that he will win a norris trophy in his career

    all the players on the list here are older or will be UFAs at the end of their current deal.

    It would make absolutely no sense to trade Dahlin who has all the potential in the world unless you are getting back a player who is already one of the best

    and of course his advanced stats aren't the best, he has been on some god awful teams with below average goaltending and coaching, if you watch the games you can see how smart and talented he is for his age....he'll be a stud
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 12:55 p.m.
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    ya I mean I never compared him to McDavid? You asked who I would trade him for and those are the players I would consider. Dahlin isnt top 10 yet but he is definitely a top 20 LD as a teenager and D-men typically take a little longer to develop. he broke Bobby Orr records not a big deal

    I have no doubt in my mind that he will win a norris trophy in his career

    all the players on the list here are older or will be UFAs at the end of their current deal.

    It would make absolutely no sense to trade Dahlin who has all the potential in the world unless you are getting back a player who is already one of the best


    The most sheltered defenseman on the team.

    Even John Gilmour (who?) got harder minutes.

    Yikes.
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.
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    The most sheltered defenseman on the team.

    Even John Gilmour (who?) got harder minutes.

    Yikes.



    So you're saying its a good idea to take a 18-19 year old kid (who was the prize of sucking so bad and winning the draft lottery finally) and completely ruin his confidence right off the bat by putting him out on the ice against Crosby and McDavid for 24 minutes a night? genius

    it's impressive to even play 18 min a night as a teen dman in the NHL while holding your own and putting up 40+ points...
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    The most sheltered defenseman on the team.

    Even John Gilmour (who?) got harder minutes.

    Yikes.


    You can say that all you want to try to diminish thePlayer I remember MacKinnon not lighting it up his first few years. Every time Dahlin was on the ice possession flipped for Bufs favor. His vision is unreal. To answer you question, Buffalo wouldn’t trade him for anything but an overpayment, and no team (most likely) would do it. There’s a reason there are rarely top 3 draft picks traded during their ELC (let alone 1 OA who look every bit as advertised, just needs a little seasoning)
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.
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    So you're saying its a good idea to take a 18-19 year old kid (who was the prize of sucking so bad and winning the draft lottery finally) and completely ruin his confidence right off the bat by putting him out on the ice against Crosby and McDavid for 24 minutes a night? genius

    it's impressive to even play 18 min a night as a teen dman in the NHL while holding your own and putting up 40+ points...


    tears of joy

    Your comprehension is severely limited! I didn't say that at all. But if he really is an "absolute prodigy" he should be able to actually win his sheltered, 3rd pairing minutes.
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:36 p.m.
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    You can say that all you want to try to diminish thePlayer I remember MacKinnon not lighting it up his first few years. Every time Dahlin was on the ice possession flipped for Bufs favor. His vision is unreal. To answer you question, Buffalo wouldn’t trade him for anything but an overpayment, and no team (most likely) would do it. There’s a reason there are rarely top 3 draft picks traded during their ELC (let alone 1 OA who look every bit as advertised, just needs a little seasoning)


    51.44 CF% while getting hugely favorable matchups, zone starts and OTF starts tells me your eyes are deceiving you. His xGF% is below 50%, meaning despite all possible advantages his coaches are giving him, he isn't creating more chances than he's giving up.

    Early days yet, but these aren't promising returns. He's producing offense, but he isn't helping his team win.
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:38 p.m.
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    tears of joy

    Your comprehension is severely limited! I didn't say that at all. But if he really is an "absolute prodigy" he should be able to actually win his sheltered, 3rd pairing minutes.


    If ~2.5 increase in shot share and share of goals is nearly 10% higher with him isn’t winning, then idk what is.. you asked what it would take, then bash the player to lower the fictional price haha. Idk if you should be calling anyone’s comprehension limited..
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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    51.44 CF% while getting hugely favorable matchups, zone starts and OTF starts tells me your eyes are deceiving you. His xGF% is below 50%, meaning despite all possible advantages his coaches are giving him, he isn't creating more chances than he's giving up.

    Early days yet, but these aren't promising returns. He's producing offense, but he isn't helping his team win.


    10% share of goals increase with him then without.. but doesn’t help the team win. If he isn’t anything more then a decent 3rd pairing, like you keep implying (which is just not close to accurate, but l’ll bite) why would you want to trade for him on your team anyways knowing that the price would be inflated because if draft position for caliber of player? Logic seems faulty here, unless it’s just to bash a 19 year old with 84 points already to his name.
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:50 p.m.
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    tears of joy

    Your comprehension is severely limited! I didn't say that at all. But if he really is an "absolute prodigy" he should be able to actually win his sheltered, 3rd pairing minutes.


    so 19:18 min a night as a 19 year old is "3rd pair mins" ?

    sorry but youre an idiot
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:50 p.m.
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    10% share of goals increase with him then without.. but doesn’t help the team win. If he isn’t anything more then a decent 3rd pairing, like you keep implying (which is just not close to accurate, but l’ll bite) why would you want to trade for him on your team anyways knowing that the price would be inflated because if draft position for caliber of player? Logic seems faulty here, unless it’s just to bash a 19 year old with 84 points already to his name.



    haters gunna hate

    and be jealous
    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.
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    haters gunna hate

    and be jealous


    I mean, it’s ok to say he hasn’t hit his ceiling, that’s true. He’s only gonna get better. To trade that potential for anything less then a great/overpay return is stupid. He’s already our best d man. By the end of the year he was playing more minutes. Ralph limited initially and it really helped. But if you just look at advanced stats you wouldn’t know this. The eye test isn’t the end all, but it can’t be discounted either just like adv stats. CD thinks that only advanced stats matter. Good luck with that.
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    Apr. 8, 2020 at 1:59 p.m.
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    You can't trade the seventh overall 2020 first.

    But if you lose your mind and put it on the table, we'll take it off for Adam Henrique and the Boston first. If you get bumped down to ninth, it changes to our own second.
     
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