Habs agressive stunners Price to COL cap space for Barzal

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Created by: nilees24

Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2020

Published: May 14, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

For the Habs to improve on offense & defense they'll have to give up their crown jewel in net. And yes, for the Habs to resign pillar players long-term (Gallagher, Danualt, Petry), their only option is departing with Price's 10.5 million cap space. Sakic is in need of a goaltender with a high pedigree, Price would waive his no-trade clause for a Cup contender in the Western conference. MTL can ride Francouz and Crawford as BRIDGE goaltenders until Primeau is ready to go for the 2022/23 season. Give them both 40 games each and find out which one is good to go for a playoff run.

Projected cap space - (81.5 mill salary cap spikes to 84.5 mill for 2021/22)

Word out of Montreal is Ilya Kovalchuk is a lock to return (likely 3 mil/yr deal with performance bonuses). Feeling is Tatar & Weal are not affordable to re-sign for 2021/22 season (unless Drouin is traded in 2021-22). All other UFA's/RFA's at start of 2021/22 (Gallagher, Danault, Petry, Armia, Lehkonen, Poehling, etc.) can be resigned at fair market value (total cap hit for top 23 players just under $84 mill for 2021/22 season).

2021/22 Contract Offers (UFA's/RFA's):
Gallagher 6 yr / 43.5 mill (7.25 mill/yr.)
Danualt 6 yr / 36 mill (6 mill/yr.)
Petry 4 yr / 22 mill (5.5 mill/yr.)
Armia 4 yr / 16 mill (4 mill/yr.)
Lehkonen 3 yr / 9 mill (3 mill/yr.)
Poehling 2 yr / 1.7 mill (850k/yr.)
Caufield 3 yr / 2.775 mill (925k/yr entry-level deal.)

Team Cap Hit for 2021/22 - $83.9 million

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Romanov, Alexander	3	$925,000
Fairbrother, Gianni	3	$743,333
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	3	$700,000
Fonstad, Cole	3	$700,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Barzal, Mathew	7	$9,000,000
Domi, Max	5	$6,500,000
Mete, Victor	2	$1,250,000
Evans, Jake	2	$850,000
Juulsen, Noah	1	$725,000
Vejdemo, Lukas	1	$725,000
Blandisi, Joseph	1	$700,000
Lucchini, Jacob	1	$700,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Crawford, Corey	2	$3,500,000
Kovalchuk, Ilya	2	$3,000,000
Thompson, Nate	2	$1,250,000
LaDue, Paul	1	$700,000

Trades

MTL

2022 5th round pick (NJD)

NJD

Alzner, Karl
2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
2021 3rd round pick (CHI)

Additional Details:

Trade occurs at Draft.

MTL

Francouz, Pavel
Girard, Samuel
2021 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Price, Carey

Additional Details:

Trade occurs after Draft.

MTL

Barzal, Mathew [RFA Rights]

NYI

Brook, Josh
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
2021 1st round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

Trade occurs after Draft. MB should consider offer sheet for Barzal if Trade fails.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$77,103,809	$0	$425,000	$4,396,191

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Barzal, Mathew $9,000,000$9,000,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 1
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 2
Kovalchuk, Ilya $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA	Domi, Max $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1	Thompson, Nate $1,250,000$1,250,000 C UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $850,000$850,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 7	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 6	Francouz, Pavel $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 2
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Mete, Victor $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Crawford, Corey $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 2
Romanov, Alexander $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 2

May 14, 2020 at 10:13 p.m.

#101

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: nilees24

If players and GMs think hes the best, does that make him the best? His highest trade value is this offseason.

He has no trade value

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May 14, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.

#102

nilees24

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Lol ya neither of those will happen.

I predict Price will have a Rinne or Lundqvist like career. Play into his mid 30s, be decent, but elite behind a youthful up and coming Habs team. Even with a flat cap the Habs are in good shape with him, couple years from now when the cap finally rises again they will still be good with him.

His reputation holds value in a trade, at this moment, you're opinion wont change that.

His cap hit won't hurt the Habs as long as the cap rises by 2022. Pretty simple to see.

MB has demonstrated a willingness to trade talented players without remorse (Subban). Itchy trade finger. Price would be easy for him to move if it fixed his offense/defense and improve cap space for years to come. I remind you that Carey Price is their greatest trade chip

May 14, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.

#103

Subbanator7667

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

This is completely divorced from reality

I made a couple points. Which one is part of the divorce?

May 14, 2020 at 10:15 p.m.

#104

Random2152

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

This is completely divorced from reality

When it comes to own team player evaluations, Habs fans often are divorced from reality- more so than all the other fanbases.

May 14, 2020 at 10:16 p.m.

#105

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Quoting: nilees24

You would never get the value that Habs fans would want. He hold value but it would never be enough to forgive the fan base. There is a wide gap between his actual value, and what Habs fans would accept

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May 14, 2020 at 10:17 p.m.

#106

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Quoting: Random2152

When it comes to own team player evaluations, Habs fans often are divorced from reality- more so than all the other fanbases.

Like Leafs fans thinking Johnsson Bracco and a 2nd get them a top pairing RHD on this site

May 14, 2020 at 10:17 p.m.

#107

nilees24

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Sakic wouldn't trade girard for price straight up with retention. Goalies have crappy trade value to begin with, let alone goalies with the worst contract in nhl history

Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Sakic wouldn't trade girard for price straight up with retention. Goalies have crappy trade value to begin with, let alone goalies with the worst contract in nhl history

COL has too much cap space. Can't understand Sakic's willingness to request some cap retention for acquiring the best in the world. Francouz is worthless if Price is on the roster. Deal makes sense.

May 14, 2020 at 10:18 p.m.

#108

nilees24

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

He has no trade value

will agree to disagree amigo.

May 14, 2020 at 10:19 p.m.

#109

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: nilees24

COL has too much cap space. Can't understand Sakic's willingness to request some cap retention for acquiring the best in the world. Francouz is worthless if Price is on the roster. Deal makes sense.

Price has been barely average for 3 years

May 14, 2020 at 10:23 p.m.

#110

nilees24

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Price has been barely average for 3 years

The Habs haven't been very good in front of him. Majority in the NHL believe he is the best right now.

May 14, 2020 at 10:27 p.m.

#111

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: nilees24

The Habs haven't been very good in front of him. Majority in the NHL believe he is the best right now.

41% isn't a majority and it was before this year before he put up a pedestrian .909 GAA and it's a subjective vote

May 14, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.

#112

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May I offer a different idea that everyone seems to be glossing over?

Ask yourself this:
Is there not a GM in the NHL that would trade for Price right now?

We all know what WE'D do. I think the more important question is would NHL GM's not do it? Not necessarily this trade above but trading for Price in a deal that actually involves value going back?

I know for a fact that the old boys club is still very much relevant in today's NHL. I think with a little retention and a more modest return, Price can absolutely be traded. Right now.

Who cares what we'd do.....nothing we say or do makes a difference in the NHL. Real GM's however......well, I definitely wouldn't be betting any money on things I know they won't do. NHL GM's do the darn-dest things sometime.

May 14, 2020 at 10:37 p.m.

#113

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Quoting: F50marco

I genuinely believe not a single GM would give up assets for him with that contract

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May 14, 2020 at 11:17 p.m.

#114

F50marco

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Quoting: moli92

I genuinely believe not a single GM would give up assets for him with that contract

Oh I disagree. You are looking at it at face value. In any trade of this magnitude, other cap would be going the other way. Offsetting the impact.

Players, Coaches, GM's still love this guy. He's a consummate professional that is highly respected among his peers. In the NHL, that is enough.

Not to mention a role model, a marketing asset and at the end of the day still a decent goalie. Its only the contract that us fans look at but there are a lot of other factors GM's look at.

May 14, 2020 at 11:18 p.m.

#115

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Quoting: nilees24

This COL trade makes the Avs a cup contender for the next 3 years. Gives the HABS two goalies to bridge for Primeau's arrival in 2022/23.

COL is a Cup contender WITHOUT Price. Top 4 right now in GA, GF, Wins and win%. They are one of the youngest teams in the league, have one of the best prospect pools in the league and have cap space to work with for the next 4 years before the MacKinnon extension happens.
They don’t need Price and more importantly don’t want that contract.

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May 14, 2020 at 11:27 p.m.

#116

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Quoting: F50marco

Being highly respected doesnt mean a team is gonna pay 10.5M per season for an average-to-below-average performance. Especially now when there are so many goalies available via trade (Murray, Georgiev/Lundqvist) and free agency (Lehner, Crawford, Greiss, Holtby, Khudobin, Markstrom, Talbot, etc). Being highly respected means they may offer him a front office or scouting job when he retires, not that they are going to put up with poor play.

If that much cap is going back to MTL to offset it then its a cap dump both ways (similar to Lucic/Neal). I wouldnt call that 'giving up assets' though.

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May 15, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.

#117

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Quoting: nilees24

COL has tons of cap space and could entertain the full value of Price's contract. Sakic wouldn't shy away. Maybe change the 1st rd to a 3rd rounder I suppose.

30+ yr old goalie on a $10.5M contract for the next 6 yrs would be cap suicide for team that has at a minimum 3 huge extensions in the next 4 years. Colorado would literally not send a single piece you had in the trade straight up for him, that’s how toxic that contract would be to the Avs.

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