Habs agressive stunners Price to COL cap space for Barzal

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Your a fan, just like the ones who voted John Scott in the all star game.

Players who are colleagues of Carey Price voted him the best by a large majority

Proved your own point

Haha okay, doesnt make sense but okay

May 14, 2020 at 9:40 p.m.

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When was that?

2014. Chris Kreider took him out and the series was lost 2 games later. Every Habs fan remembers

May 14, 2020 at 9:42 p.m.

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to the Avs he has no value.

He doesn't to anyone. The contract is ridiculous and his best years are in the rear view mirror. No GM with a brain is trading for that deal in a cap world.

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May 14, 2020 at 9:42 p.m.

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https://www.nhlpa.com/player-poll/2019-20

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Did you notice that 3 of the 4 goalies on the list are losing the starter job on their team, possibly including price

May 14, 2020 at 9:42 p.m.

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Among goalies with at least 20 games played Francouz is 5th in the league in sv%, and Grubauer 18th. Only two other teams (Dallas and Boston) have 2 goalies in the top 25 in sv%.

Obviously sv% isn't everything, but it does strongly suggest that our goalies are getting the job done statistically. Grubauer also had a good showing down the stretch last year and in the playoffs, suggesting that he's fine when the pressure is on. He also carried Washington down the stretch in their cup winning season.

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May 14, 2020 at 9:43 p.m.

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Best goalie in the world and nobody wants him. Completely floored. He's totally relevant for the next 5 years. Cap space is not an issue here.

cap space is not an issue? what? his cap hit is a MAJOR issue. for a team entering a cup window that contract is enough to completely ruin their depth

May 14, 2020 at 9:43 p.m.

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Best goalie in the world and nobody wants him. Completely floored. He's totally relevant for the next 5 years. Cap space is not an issue here.

I have been fighting this fight for years on here man. They will bring up all of his stats, other then of course he plays more games then any other goalie, completes more passes, or is still regarded as most inside the game as the best

May 14, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.

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Quoting: JeffW

When was that?

Quoting: moli92

to the Avs he has no value. If I was Colorado's GM and Bergevin offered Price for free I would say no

Quoting: nilees24

Best goalie in the world and nobody wants him. Completely floored. He's totally relevant for the next 5 years. Cap space is not an issue here.

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I wouldn't give up Girard, period. He's a core player.

Nor would I even trade for a goaltender right now. Our goaltending situation is fine, and we don't need to trade assets for marginal improvements. I'd rather just keep what we have and then introduce Annunen in a couple of years, he looks real good, very dialled in and mobile.

Quoting: Subbanator7667

Your a fan, just like the ones who voted John Scott in the all star game.

Players who are colleagues of Carey Price voted him the best by a large majority

Proved your own point

One of my favourite things online is when I see Habs fans thinking that Price has any value at all, or is even a good goalie. He has been bad for awhile now with only intermittent flashes of competency. Price alone with that contract is going to cost you BIG TIME to move, no one is giving you **** for him. Here is this year, then last year. You are straight up delusional if you think he is worth anything at all.
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May 14, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

2014. Chris Kreider took him out and the series was lost 2 games later. Every Habs fan remembers

I remember him playing 12 games... not exactly a deep run

May 14, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.

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Quoting: JeffW

Haha okay, doesnt make sense but okay

You're obviously an idiot if it doesnt.

You tried to say that players voted John Scott in the all star game, I proved you wrong and stated it was stupid fans that did.

Just like how it's stupid fans that think Price is a horrible goalie when 41% of the people who play against him think he is the best in the league.

Who do you trust more, the fans? Or the experts?

May 14, 2020 at 9:46 p.m.

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Quoting: Richard88

Annunen is relevant 4 years down the road to be brutally honest. Why not have Price and a couple Cup runs until he's ready. Me confused.

May 14, 2020 at 9:47 p.m.

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

2014. Chris Kreider took him out and the series was lost 2 games later. Every Habs fan remembers

Damn you Kreider. Should have been the Habs losing in the finals to the Kings that year. Thanks Chris.

May 14, 2020 at 9:48 p.m.

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Would you trade Price with $3m+ retention? That would be a pre-requisite in any trade with a contender.

May 14, 2020 at 9:48 p.m.

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My eyes

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May 14, 2020 at 9:48 p.m.

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Quoting: Richard88

Ok, now do goalies who have averaged over 45 games a season in the last 4 years?

20 games is what back ups play. Starters are 50+ games a year. And no one plays more games when healthy then Price.

May 14, 2020 at 9:50 p.m.

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Quoting: Random2152

Dude your nuts. Players and GM think he's the best goalie in the world right now.

https://www.nhlpa.com/player-poll/2019-20

May 14, 2020 at 9:50 p.m.

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Whoever gave Bobrovsky his contract last summer obviously didn't see this graph haha

May 14, 2020 at 9:51 p.m.

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Dude your nuts. Players and GM think he's the best goalie in the world right now.

https://www.nhlpa.com/player-poll/2019-20

And? The numbers prove otherwise. These are hockey players, not geniuses.

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Whoever gave Bobrovsky his contract last summer obviously didn't see this graph haha

Talon is not known for being an analytics guy. He is easy to take advantage of in that sense.

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May 14, 2020 at 9:52 p.m.

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You say we're delusional yet any expert on Sportsnet, Sportcenter, GM in the league and fellow players who play against him would call you delusional.

I know the numbers, been shown them all. Doesnt change the fact that hockey people who are actually in charge of making trades, in knowing the insider knowledge and guys who play against Price every night all say you're wrong.

Welcome to the NHL boys club.

May 14, 2020 at 9:52 p.m.

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Quoting: Random2152

And? The numbers prove otherwise. These are hockey players, not geniuses.

Talon is not known for being an analytics guy. He is easy to take advantage of in that sense.

haha will agree to disagree amigo.

May 14, 2020 at 9:53 p.m.

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Also that's very rude, my point was just because people say things doesnt make it so... carey price is one of if not the most respected goalies in the league and use to hold the title of undisputed best, however now he has been surpassed like most older players are... if price didnt come with a boat anchor of a contract with him then maybe you could kove him tona team that needs a #1, issue is that colorado doesnt need one.

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May 14, 2020 at 9:53 p.m.

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Annunen is relevant 4 years down the road to be brutally honest. Why not have Price and a couple Cup runs until he's ready. Me confused.

"A couple of Cup runs"? By the time he's had those cup runs Price will still have 2-4 years at $10.5m cap hit which is totally unworkable. I'm surprised this is even an argument when we have a flat cap.

May 14, 2020 at 9:54 p.m.

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Ok, now do goalies who have averaged over 45 games a season in the last 4 years?

20 games is what back ups play. Starters are 50+ games a year. And no one plays more games when healthy then Price.

Hellebuyck, Andersen, and Bobrovsky all played more games than Price over the last 4 years and each of them had a better sv% over that time. Hellebuyck is the only one of the three that anyone would even dare to ask a similar return for because he was the best goalie in the league this year and is young and signed to a good contract. Price is none of those things.

May 14, 2020 at 9:55 p.m.

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Quoting: Richard88

Annunen contract is very light 4 yrs down the road. Nothing north of $2 mil a yr to start. Tons of cap space for years to come in COL.

May 14, 2020 at 9:55 p.m.

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