Hypothetical #1: Detroit gets first pick

I think the Wild could go D or F with their second pick, but given how strong next year's class is for defenseman and how strong this year's class is for forwards, I'm wondering if taking a forward with both picks is the smart move. I guess it depends on the players available, if the BPA is clearly a D then you take the defenseman. If it's an F you take the forward.

On my personal big board, Lapierre is far and away the most talented player available so he'd be my pick there, but that's just me.

Canadiens wont take Sanderson over Raymond. To be totally honest I think Drysdale and Raymond are the only options team are looking at for 4th overall. I would honestly be so happy if Lapierre and Mysak fell to there but they wont. Mysak is in the 20-30 range and Lapierre is 15-25.

Neither Raymond or drysdale are strong enough to be the only options. Rossi could easily go 4 and depending on who Perfetti and holtz could easily go there too

Not a chance the Hawks take Askorov with Raymond, Perfetti, Holtz, Rossi, or Lundell on the board.

Not a chance? Who exactly do they have as a future net minder in Chicago?

Goalies simply are not worth as much as top forwards to D guys in the draft, in FA or in trades. They typically take the longest to develop, are the most risky, and Hawks have not had great experience recently with Russian players and contracts with the Russian pro leagues which Askarov likely signs for 2 or 3 years.

Hawks will re-sign Crow to a 2 year deal and they have Lankinen and Delia who are both strong backup prospects so far. Hawks are trying to compete now not in a few years when Askarov is ready and as such will get a forward that will be ready now or in a year such as Lundell or Holtz who both are ready now or in another year. One last thing, the goalie free agent market is strong too this year so there are plenty of guys available for the future.

Ur solution is to sign an old free agent goalie. Who was the last team to win a cup with a free agent goalie? Goalies are SO VALUABLE that when u have a stud in front of u, u take him

Crow's numbers were good this past year, played really well after a slow start. Lehner is available too and he was a top 5 goalie in the league....look how much he was worth at the TDL. Before you're (not UR) critical, study the historicals, trade value, and financials on what goalies are worth and then tell me a first line center or winger isn't worth more. Out of the last 14 Stanley Cup winning goalies, only 2 were drafted in the first round and only 1 selected in the top 20...pretty much says all you need to know.

Bottom line, Hawks aren't drafting a goalie at the number 9 spot to sit and wait for 3+ years over a 1st line prospect like Holtz, Rossi or Perfetti or even Lundell that's ready now or in a year. Hawks still have Keith, Toews, Kane, Saad, seabs and are going to take full advantage of that core which is why they've retooled on the fly. Less then 15% chance Hawks take Askarov.

So you’re going to give a huge contract to lehner? Good luck with that. Crawford is also 35. Just because a bunch of goalies are drafted later doesn’t mean they have less value. It means that most of them aren’t elite at 17&18. Whether you like it or not the hawks are in a rebuild.
Lehner isn’t very consistent and is only getting older. He will also be leaving his prime while Boqvist, dach and debrincat are entering their prime. How many teams win the cup after trading for or signing a goalie?

Lehner is a top 5 goalie in the league...saying otherwise is comical. Every goalie occasionally has consistency issues, but to say Lehner is inconsistent is crazy talk.

Hawks are in retool mode whether you or I agree they should be is a different story but they are retooling on the fly.

Out of the last 14 cups winning goalies, 11 goalies were developed internally, only 1 drafted in the top 20 (Fleury), clearly most goalies are drafted in the second round or later that are that successful (Binngton, Crow, Holtby, Quick, Murray, etc. Go look at the last 20 years of goalies drafted in the first round and see what the hit rate was out of 30 goalies taken. Look, we heard the same hype about Spencer Knight last year and everyone projected him in the top 10 while he fell to #13. Every year in the draft there is the one goalie that everyone says is a lock and out of the last 30 there's been about 7 that turned into full time starters in the league and only 4 were all star caliber. That's a lot hit ratio and the average development time was 5 years. Hawks aren't drafting a goalie with the #9 pick...you can count on that. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my words.

Montreal isn’t going to take Sanderson over Raymond. We just have too many young LHD, and Raymond is too good to pass up. I would love to get Mysak & Lapierre in the 2nd round, that would be crazy. Raymond, Mysak, & Lapierre as the first three picks would be amazing. After that I think that we’d try to go for a defenseman with our other 2nd even if we need to move down. Maybe Timmins & Co. can pull another rabbit out of their hats like they did with Romanov in 2018.

I like the idea of Detroit taking Dawes and I think they should go for another goalie (Clang is super underrated) later on, but with that 32 pick I'd go for Mysak, Forester, O Rourke and multiple other guys and hope Dawes is there with edmontons pick (I think he will be)

Reichel isnt a steal at 28, its pretty much where he should go, or a little bit before. Also massive overrating Bednar, he doesnt belong in the second at all.

You did a good job with the Detroit picks. I'm referring to the second round picks each pick addresses a team need.

Raymond's not falling out of the top 6 lol. No team is dumb enough to pass on Mitch Marner 2.0

Odds are he’s going to fall. Perfetti is a Canadian playing in the ohl, meaning way more exposure. Rossi is the only c after the “consensus” top 3 of Lafrenière, Byfield, and Stutzle. Then u have the “best” d man in the draft in drysdale. Finally u have Holtz, the ‘best’ sniper in the draft who is also 6’0 190. People who fall are usually small players and euros, Raymond is both

I can't see Edmonton taking Peterka when Reichel, Perreault, Mysak and Lapierre are still on the board. Speaking of, how do you justify putting Peterka over Reichel anyhow? They play the same position in the same league and thus are easy to compare:

Reichel: 42, 12-12-24 [-2]
Peterka: 42, 7-4-11 [-6]

I hear ya. I'm just personally so high on Sanderson and I think he truly may surprise everyone on his upside

I'm just going by the central scouting rankings. JJ Paterka finishes as #7 ranked Euro, Reichel finishes at #11 Euro. I think it mainly has to do with Paterka is currently stronger than Reichel

I meant steal in terms of talent level. And regards to the goalie, past couple drafts suggest that once one team breaks the ice on goaltenders in the second round, it starts a train of goalies starting to be selected

He is not a guaranteed top 6 pick at all

How do you know that?! The combine hasn't happened yet. Reichel plays a stronger game IMO, so I don't think you can come to the conclusion that Peterka is stronger by watching them play either.