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Jokiharju

Created by: Capitalfail67
Initial Creation Date: Jul 8, 2020
Published: Jul 8 at 6:09
Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Labanc, Kevin5$4,250,000
Siegenthaler, Jonas3$1,750,000
Trades
WSH
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
2021 is unprotected
BUF
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny
WSH
  1. Labanc, Kevin [RFA Rights]
SJS
  1. Boyd, Travis [RFA Rights]
  2. Johansen, Lucas [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (WSH)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
2nd is conditional if the caps win the cup
WSH
  1. 2021 5th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Jensen, Nick
Buried
  • Pheonix Copley: $25,000 ($1,100,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
WSH
ARI
WSH
WSH
WSH
2021
BUF
WSH
WSH
VGK
TOR
WSH
WSH
2022
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$71,771,795$0$1,370,000$9,728,205
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WSH
Ovechkin, Alex
$9,538,462
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
WSH
Bäckström, Nicklas
$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
WSH
Oshie, T.J.
$5,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
WSH
Vrána, Jakub
$3,350,000
LW
RFA - 1
WSH
Eller, Lars
$3,500,000
C
UFA - 3
WSH
Wilson, Tom
$5,166,666
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
WSH
Pánik, Richard
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
WSH
McMichael, Connor
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
Labanc, Kevin
$4,250,000
RW, LW
RFA
WSH
Hagelin, Carl
$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
WSH
Dowd, Nic
$750,000
C
UFA - 2
WSH
Hathaway, Garnet
$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
WSH
Sgarbossa, Michael
$700,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WSH
Siegenthaler, Jonas
$1,750,000
RD
RFA
WSH
Carlson, John
$8,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
WSH
Samsonov, Ilya
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
WSH
Orlov, Dmitry
$5,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
WSH
Vanecek, Vitek
$716,667
G
RFA - 2
WSH
Kempný, Michal
$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
WSH
Fehérváry, Martin
$805,833
LD
RFA - 2
WSH
Alexeyev, Alexander
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2

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Jul 8 at 6:10
#1
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I dont think Buffalo does that
Jul 8 at 6:11
#2
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Buffalo says no and Kuznetsov says no.
Jul 8 at 6:12
#3
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What is wrong with Kuznetsov and why are you trading him?
Jul 8 at 6:13
#4
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I dont think Buffalo does that


Idk. They’re pretty desperate to end the drought and prove to Eichel that they want to win now. They’d think about it. The unprotected part could be an issue though
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Jul 8 at 6:13
#5
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BUF fans are probably going to say no
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Jul 8 at 6:14
#6
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Quoting: MJCrv
Idk. They’re pretty desperate to end the drought and prove to Eichel that they want to win now. They’d think about it. The unprotected part could be an issue though


No, there are heaper ways to get a 2C, than an unprotected first and their future #2
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Jul 8 at 6:18
#7
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No, there are heaper ways to get a 2C, than an unprotected first and their future #2

I agree that the unprotected 1 is an issue for a 28yo 2C, but if they couldn’t get another trade done for a 2C, I was just saying I wouldn’t completely rule this out. There may be other pieces involved, but like I said, the Sabres are desperate to end this
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Jul 8 at 6:25
#8
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I love how this guy was talking earlier about how low Nylanders value really is and how overrated he is, then he makes thislaugh. A future #2 defense man and a potential top 10 pick for an overpaid 2c. They could just sign Haula who will be cheaper and not give a whole load of assets but I guess this is how it goes
Jul 8 at 6:32
#9
Joined: Jan 2019
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That would be a tough pill to swallow but Kuznetsov would be huge for Buffalo... including Fehervary or Alexeyev would make this a really cool idea
Jul 8 at 6:40
#10
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No, there are heaper ways to get a 2C, than an unprotected first and their future #2


Is there. Name a top 20 center available?
Jul 8 at 6:44
#11
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Quoting: Chapee44
That would be a tough pill to swallow but Kuznetsov would be huge for Buffalo... including Fehervary or Alexeyev would make this a really cool idea


Yeah capitals aren’t adding
Jul 8 at 6:45
#12
we vibing
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that's definitely an interesting and intriguing offer, only issue is we'd be taking a lot of cap in
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Jul 8 at 6:49
#13
David Ayres 90,
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Snort
Jul 8 at 6:53
#14
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Yeah capitals aren’t adding


I don't mean without Buffalo adding something else too. As Buffalo I would want some kind of tier 2 D prospect back so that we weren't leaving ourselves without some potential talent.
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Jul 8 at 6:54
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Edited Jul 9 at 2:59
Quoting: keep_ups12
I love how this guy was talking earlier about how low Nylanders value really is and how overrated he is, then he makes thislaugh. A future #2 defense man and a potential top 10 pick for an overpaid 2c. They could just sign Haula who will be cheaper and not give a whole load of assets but I guess this is how it goes


Overpaid? Kuzy is a 75-80 point center? Under 8 million $$Lmfao Haula is 30-40 point center. Man that’ll really help the Sabres. Great idea. Haula would be a massive upgrade to the current roster lol
Jul 8 at 6:54
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Is there. Name a top 20 center available?


Couture would definitely waive to Buffalo. If San Jose is looking to do a 2-3 year retool they should look to moving him while his value is still high
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Jul 8 at 6:57
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Quoting: Chapee44
I don't mean without Buffalo adding something else too. As Buffalo I would want some kind of tier 2 D prospect back so that we weren't leaving ourselves without some potential talent.


Capitals are giving up a top 20 center that would easily improve this team. Everyone is freaking out over the unprotected 1st but what incentive do that capitals have to trade Kuzy? They get a solid RHD and a 15-20 draft pick. Sounds fair
Jul 8 at 6:58
#18
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Couture would definitely waive to Buffalo. If San Jose is looking to do a 2-3 year retool they should look to moving him while his value is still high


Okay and you think that he’ll be cheaper than this? Go ahead and make a AGM for it. I’d be interested in the responses
Jul 8 at 7:00
#19
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Capitals are giving up a top 20 center that would easily improve this team. Everyone is freaking out over the unprotected 1st but what incentive do that capitals have to trade Kuzy? They get a solid RHD and a 15-20 draft pick. Sounds fair


Jokiharju would immediately be the #2 damn behind Carlson for the Caps... That's a pretty solid addition to the team. But I agree that Kuznetsov would be huge for Buffalo... it would be one of those trades where everyone has an opinion but only time will tell who wins it. Honestly though the cap hit is enough that Buffalo probably turns it down. Especially with the flat cap for a few years news.
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Jul 8 at 7:01
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Okay and you think that he’ll be cheaper than this? Go ahead and make a AGM for it. I’d be interested in the responses


Ive proposed #8 + Okposo + a B prospect for Couture + Sorensen in the past and both sides seemed to think it was fine. Buffalo gets a 2C that's a playoff beast without taking on to much cap (since Dahlin and Joker need raises next year). San Jose moves a long term contract for a top 10 pick and a cap dump that ends the year the need to pay Meier.
Jul 8 at 7:02
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Quoting: Chapee44
Jokiharju would immediately be the #2 damn behind Carlson for the Caps... That's a pretty solid addition to the team. But I agree that Kuznetsov would be huge for Buffalo... it would be one of those trades where everyone has an opinion but only time will tell who wins it. Honestly though the cap hit is enough that Buffalo probably turns it down. Especially with the flat cap for a few years news.


Joki would arguably be the # 3. Carlson and ORLOV are much better and Seig imo would be very close to him in skill. Kuzy is a #2 center and the 2nd beat player on the team
Jul 8 at 7:05
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ive proposed #8 + Okposo + a B prospect for Couture + Sorensen in the past and both sides seemed to think it was fine. Buffalo gets a 2C that's a playoff beast without taking on to much cap (since Dahlin and Joker need raises next year). San Jose moves a long term contract for a top 10 pick and a cap dump that ends the year the need to pay Meier.


I don’t see anyway San Jose gives you him for that return. He’s worth way more than this and you Added a cap dump. That is my opinion though

I’ve seen sabre offering the 8oa for max domi. And he’s not a top 30 center
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Jul 8 at 7:07
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Joki would arguably be the # 3. Carlson and ORLOV are much better and Seig imo would be very close to him in skill. Kuzy is a #2 center and the 2nd beat player on the team


Orlov is solid but I honestly believe Jokiharju would be your number 2... might need another year before he overtakes Orlov but there's way more 5-on-5 upside to Jokiharju... Orlov is a beast though
Jul 8 at 7:09
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DONE- BUF
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Jul 8 at 7:13
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
I don’t see anyway San Jose gives you him for that return. He’s worth way more than this and you Added a cap dump. That is my opinion though

I’ve seen sabre offering the 8oa for max domi. And he’s not a top 30 center


I agree #8 will not be moved for Domi, he's more in the #15 range. As for my trade, San Jose is in a tough spot where they have a lot of expensive aging players locked up and not a lot of room to move them. Meier has a Qualifying Offer of 10M in 3 years. Sharks already lost their 1st this year which would have been #3oa, getting #8, moving out an 8M player signed until he is 38 taking on a short term dump helps them retool around their younger players.
 
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