Ottawa says no quickly. I would rather Have Stutzel and Drysdale then Marner

As a neutral third party fan, don't think Marner is worth 3 and 5, probably one of those and the Islanders 1st is closer. Keep in mind he was drafted at #4... he isn't likely to be worth two picks of the same caliber

Toronto loves this trade. Free up some cap plus get Byfield/Stützle and Drysdale? Heck ya from them. Ottawa isn’t giving up those two for Marner

Ottawa say no without much hesitation, imo. I asked the same question except with Eichel instead of Marner (and assuming the picks were #3 and #4 - it was before the lottery), and most Sens fans that responded didn't even entertain that.

Ottawa. Although Marner is a really good player he is not worth two top 5 picks in a very deep draft. It could be Marner for two players that end up as good a Marner.

Yeah.... I get where you're coming from. It'd have to be 3 and 5 or I would not have proposed it.

Thanks for posting.

Ottawa.

Ottawa says no without hesitation.

I mean, with 5 and the Islanders pick you could also add Pietrangelo with the cap space... so add that to how you view the value of the trade. important to keep in mind Ottawa could keep all three picks and use 10M elsewhere and probably be better off. Don't think the gap between Hall and Marner is that wide, though I am confident Toronto fans disagree

Ottawa. 3 is a franchise center and 5 could be a franchise offensive dman if they choose

Both teams say no. Ottawa is finishing their rebuild and needs the high end players in the future. The leafs need them now. Chances are that the two players may not be close to marner, maybe they will in 3-4 years. If Toronto were to trade marner it would be for an established nhler.

Ottawa, if they execute the leafs get two players who have the potential to be as good as Marner, but also get out of the hole they have dug themselves into with their contracts.

Ottawa keeps their picks, have two players with NHL control of 7 years each, plus the 10m of Marner salary to spend elsewhere instead of 5 years of Marner

Is this honestly a serious question?

Is anything on here a "serious question"? Its just a bunch of people who don't know 5% about how the game actually works compared to the people who are actually making the decisions floating their bull**** opinions that are often so ridiculous that it makes me wonder if they have ever even watched a hockey game in their lives.

The question was posed for no other reason than to encourage discussion.

Ok give me a good reason why this makes any sense for Ottawa. Byfield is very often compared to Malkin, and Stutzle to Marner and Giroux in terms of their potentials and playstyles. After that you have Raymond (who is also heavily compared to Marner), Rossi (who is compared to Barzal), and Drysdale (compared to Carlson). So why exactly would Ottawa who is a rebuilding team trade for Marner when they have a solid chance of getting 2 Marner caliber players

Byfield is going to the Kings. Of that I have ZERO doubt.

For the record, comparisons are just that. It doesn't mean a damn thing until they make it to the NHL.

Whilst your at it.... Alexandre Daigle, Patrik Steffan, Rick DiPietro, Nikita Filitov, and for that matter, Pavel Zacha want you to hold their beers.

I will say this again..... I didn't say that it made sense for Ottawa. I just asked which team would say no.

Players can not always live up to potential? No way! Almost every draft has a top 10 "bust" but thats the entire point of the gamble. My personal guess for this draft is Perfetti. That doesnt however make this a good trade.

I disagree with your view on Byfield, they already have lots of centers with high end potential. I say its exactly a 50% chance they take either of Byfield/Stutzle.

As for your question, Ottawa easily says no. If you are asking for 2 top 5 picks in a very stacked draft you better be offering up Matthews.

Because young prospects very rarely turnout to be as good as they players they are compared to. There are plenty of top-5 picks that don't amount to anything. Few who turn out to be as good as Marner. And many others who take years and years to get it together.

I don't think Ottawa trades just 3 for Marner. I think both Stutzle and Byfield end up better than Marner, and they're both centers. Personally I wouldn't do 5 for Marner either because I think there's a good chance you're getting a Marner level talent there, and you're getting them way younger.

Are you suggesting the Leafs decline this above trade?

I don't think that was where he was going with that statement. I do agree with it though.

I think there are solid arguments on both sides of the reasoning TBH.

What if it were the Falmes and the offer was Matt Tkachuk for the same return? There may be larger appeal there on behalf of the Sens in passing on unknowns for the chance to have both Tkachuk brothers potentially playing together.

Tough call IMO.

With a nut job flip-flop owner like Melnyk, anything is possible.

I'm sure he'd prefer the idea of keeping the draft picks and not having to pay anything but ELC's for potentially promising players anyways.

Whether the Leafs' would accept or decline that trade, or any other trade for that matter, would depend on how seriously they think they are contenders over the next 3 or 4 years and how they feel that this trade would affect them in that regard. It is likely that neither pick would help them much in winning a cup in the next four years. The cap space would, but whether it would help them more than Marner is anyone's guess.

Well said. Good point.