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Great job Dubas

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 10, 2020
Published: Aug. 10, 2020
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Gave up the 13th overall pick for a cap dump. Now that pick is gonna be a star
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2020
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2021
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27$81,500,000$96,271,866$0$0-$14,771,866
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
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$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
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$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
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$925,000$925,000
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$675,000$675,000
C
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
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$750,000$750,000
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
LD
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
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$750,000$750,000
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$700,000$700,000
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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Yeah but who signed the bad contract in the first place?
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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Possibly the worst trade in the last 12 months!

#14 is going to be a solid pick in this year's draft as well as we all know; Carolina thanks the Leafs I'm sure for that gift!
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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13th**
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Yeah but who signed the bad contract in the first place?


I'm not defending Lou either, awful signing
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.
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We already have a topic whining about this: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/348286
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:24 p.m.
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We already have a topic whining about this: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/348286


Thanks for that because this post will get removed by the mods within 10 minutes
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:24 p.m.
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13th pick oilers are at 14
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.
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Thank you Dubas for increasing the precedent for cap dump trades.
Want a 6 million dollar dump for 1 year, mid 1st. Thanks wink
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:26 p.m.
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remember it was not Dubas who signed that contract it was Lou lamoriello. Marner needed an extension and cap dumping Marleau was a must. Nobody could have predicted a pandemic would happen or that the pick would be in the top 15.

If lou gave Marleau more money and less term than Dubas would not have had to dump him.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:31 p.m.
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If they hadn't signed Tavares and just kept Kadri to be the 2C they could've rode out the last season of Marleau's deal and kept their 1st round pick.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Possibly the worst trade in the last 12 months!

#14 is going to be a solid pick in this year's draft as well as we all know; Carolina thanks the Leafs I'm sure for that gift!


while i agree with you he had no choice but to move that contract which wasnt even a Dubas signing
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:32 p.m.
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What was he supposed to do? Keep Marleau? You're such a clown and clearly lack rational thinking
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
remember it was not Dubas who signed that contract it was Lou lamoriello. Marner needed an extension and cap dumping Marleau was a must. Nobody could have predicted a pandemic would happen or that the pick would be in the top 15.

If lou gave Marleau more money and less term than Dubas would not have had to dump him.


Well I think people could have predicted the Leafs weren't going very far anyway, but I get your point with the play-in round
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:33 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
If they hadn't signed Tavares and just kept Kadri to be the 2C they could've rode out the last season of Marleau's deal and kept their 1st round pick.


yes and Kadri would of prob got a suspension by now for getting Dubois back for when he cross checked Muzzin
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Seider53
Thank you Dubas for increasing the precedent for cap dump trades.
Want a 6 million dollar dump for 1 year, mid 1st. Thanks wink


Thank Lou for that, he set the market so he can get destroyed by it when he has to move millions off the Islanders. But let's blame Dubas for that.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:34 p.m.
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Well I think people could have predicted the Leafs weren't going very far anyway, but I get your point with the play-in round


im not even concerned. This years draft is deep and Dubas in the 2nd round can get another steal like he did with Robertson than people will find something new to talk about.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:35 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
If they hadn't signed Tavares and just kept Kadri to be the 2C they could've rode out the last season of Marleau's deal and kept their 1st round pick.


And not have JT. Does anyone think the 13th pick is going to be JT? Not maybe another Kadri?
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:37 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
im not even concerned. This years draft is deep and Dubas in the 2nd round can get another steal like he did with Robertson than people will find something new to talk about.


Big difference between #13 and the second round though. Guys like Holloway, Quinn, Jarvis, Askarov all likely available and maybe even someone like Lundell
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.
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But it was not Dubas who signed Marleau, on the other hand, his deal with Colorado did not work and, in theory, he could trade Marner for a star RD or a very good RD+. As a result, Barrie and Ceci are clearly not the players that Toronto needed.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.
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And not have JT. Does anyone think the 13th pick is going to be JT? Not maybe another Kadri?


You'd have this 1st round pick and about $7M in cap space.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:44 p.m.
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Quoting: leochirichiello
yes and Kadri would of prob got a suspension by now for getting Dubois back for when he cross checked Muzzin


Thats Clifford's job
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:45 p.m.
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What was he supposed to do? Keep Marleau? You're such a clown and clearly lack rational thinking


he should have paid less, ooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrr hey could not have signed tavares or not overpaid marner
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
You'd have this 1st round pick and about $7M in cap space.


i mean that doesn't really do anything though the 14th pick means nothing to us and the cap space lol Dubas clearly doesn't care about it with the contracts were throwing around
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:51 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
You'd have this 1st round pick and about $7M in cap space.


Because TO would be in the same place? Come on, I don't believe people are this stupid. What ifs are just fantasy. TO doesn't move on from Lou and what happens? Morons on this site say he would have played hard ball and not overpaid Matthews, Nylander and Marner. Really? Well he did over pay Marleau and Zaitsev. If Dubas didn't sign JT we'd have all sorts of cap space, Kadri and the 13th pick. Really? They would have finished with the exact same record, lost to Columbus and lost this draft lottery in the same fashion? Bull****, every single word of this nonsense is bull****. The best thing Dubas could have done when he became GM is signing Tavares. He had to move Marleau or trade Marner without bringing back cap so essentially futures. Dubas has done good work, it just didn't pan out yet. Who saw the pandemic coming and preventing the cap from going up? All this crap from the gallery is just that. Crap.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 6:53 p.m.
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he should have paid less, ooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrr hey could not have signed tavares or not overpaid marner


Just that easy. He could have just paid less. What would you have paid to move a 39 year old guy making 6+ million? What do you think Lou is going to have to pay to move the many terrible contracts on his team? Trolls being trolls is this site.
 
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