is this a fair trade

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Created by: acj

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 1, 2020

Published: Sep. 1, 2020

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tell me what you think in the comments

2 hours ago the wild nd pens said they were looking for a trade and that the wild are looking for a center. The Minnesota Wild have been unofficially tied to the Pittsburgh Penguins trade saga of goalie Matt Murray

https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/dans-daily-minnesota-wild-jonas-brodin-pittsburgh-penguins-trade-goodbye-chara/

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Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan		5	$3,350,000
Åberg, Pontus		3	$850,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Vatanen, Sami		3	$3,500,000
Namestnikov, Vladislav		3	$2,750,000

Trades

PIT

Brodin, Jonas
2021 4th round pick (MIN)

PIT

2021 5th round pick (NYR)

NYR

Dumoulin, Brian

PIT

2021 5th round pick (LAK)

LAK

Bjugstad, Nick
2020 4th round pick (PIT)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$77,436,009	$0	$850,000	$4,063,991

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2
Poulin, Samuel $894,167$894,167 C, LW RFA - 4	Namestnikov, Vladislav $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 2	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
Åberg, Pontus $850,000$850,000 RW, LW UFA	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $3,350,000$3,350,000 G UFA - 3
Brodin, Jonas $4,166,667$4,166,667 LD NMC UFA - 1	Pesce, Brett $4,025,000$4,025,000 RD UFA - 4	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 2
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD UFA - 5	Vatanen, Sami $3,500,000$3,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.

Nikolay_Zherdev

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Dumoulin's that bad? I feel like we definitely do that

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Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.

ClockReads2113

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First two? Not even close to fair to the other teams.

Why in the heck would you trade Dumo? Let alone for a 5th?! You could probably get a 1st for him or a very good prospects.

Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.

acj

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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev

Dumoulin's that bad? I feel like we definitely do that

no hes good we could get a 3rd or 4th for him ut people will reck me in the comments if i dont put him up for a 4th there was talk of ryan strom for dumo straight up

Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.

justaBoss

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My opinion regarding that MIN trade is that it's a complete failure and Guerin should be sent to the moon with a rocket if he ever goes through with something even closely resembling that.

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Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:27 a.m.

acj

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

First two? Not even close to fair to the other teams.

Why in the heck would you trade Dumo? Let alone for a 5th?! You could probably get a 1st for him or a very good prospects.

did you see the link? you should try reading it

Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:27 a.m.

acj

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Quoting: justaBoss

My opinion regarding that MIN trade is that it's a complete failure and Guerin should be sent to the moon with a rocket if he ever goes through with something even closely resembling that.

copy and paste the link on google

Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.

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Carolina gets a bunch of spare parts to help a direct competitor in the metro get better lol

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Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.

Nikolay_Zherdev

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Quoting: acj

no hes good we could get a 3rd or 4th for him ut people will reck me in the comments if i dont put him up for a 4th there was talk of ryan strom for dumo straight up

didn't he used to be a shut down dman? he's just had injuries?

Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.

justaBoss

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Quoting: acj

copy and paste the link on google

I did.

Seems like complete garbage to me, but what do I know...

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Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.

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Quoting: acj

no hes good we could get a 3rd or 4th for him ut people will reck me in the comments if i dont put him up for a 4th there was talk of ryan strom for dumo straight up

hes playing on the top pair. If he has positive value, hes definitely worth a lot more

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Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.

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Does dog poop smell like apple pie???

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Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:45 a.m.

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Quoting: csick

hes playing on the top pair. If he has positive value, hes definitely worth a lot more

should i edit it?
and if so what should we get back

Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.

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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev

didn't he used to be a shut down dman? he's just had injuries?

Yes, he still is, solid top pair shut down LD, would be a great partner for ADA or Trouba

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Sep. 1, 2020 at 10:54 a.m.

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The Minnesota trade is horrible. Please, just stop trying them

Sep. 1, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.

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A few things, that value for a top pairing shut down D is very very poor. Brady Skjei got the rangers a 1st and he isn't nearly as good or on a great value contract.

Russo stated in his article that the wild know the value of Brodin and are dangling him for a true top 6 center, not McCann. They have interest in McCann, but not for Brodin.

Sep. 1, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.

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Quoting: acj

did you see the link? you should try reading it

It doesn't say anything about MIN taking that ****e package for one of the best shutdown defensemen in the game.

Sep. 1, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

It doesn't say anything about MIN taking that ****e package for one of the best shutdown defensemen in the game.

it litterally said "Minnesota could dangle defenseman Jonas Brodin for Murray" and johnsons in that package with Murray and they need a center.

Sep. 1, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.

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Quoting: acj

it litterally said "Minnesota could dangle defenseman Jonas Brodin for Murray" and johnsons in that package with Murray and they need a center.

I could MAYBE understand Murray for Brodin, but still think PIT would have to throw in more. But no way they take on Johnson's terrible contract. They need top 6 C. McCann is a 3C at best.

Sep. 1, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

I could MAYBE understand Murray for Brodin, but still think PIT would have to throw in more. But no way they take on Johnson's terrible contract. They need top 6 C. McCann is a 3C at best.

he also plays lW

Sep. 1, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

I could MAYBE understand Murray for Brodin, but still think PIT would have to throw in more. But no way they take on Johnson's terrible contract. They need top 6 C. McCann is a 3C at best.

What if he added Rask coming to Pitt? Not that they want him, but it basically negates JJ.

Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.

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Any trade involving Dumoulin hurts my heart

Sep. 2, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.

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Quoting: acj

it litterally said "Minnesota could dangle defenseman Jonas Brodin for Murray" and johnsons in that package with Murray and they need a center.

lmao the only reason they're dangling Brodin at all is because they lose either him or Dumba in the expansion draft as it stands. No way Johnson gets dumped here. Duby goes to Pitt so that they don't have to buy him out. I don't think McCann is the caliber of C they're looking for either.

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