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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2020
Published: Sep. 21, 2020
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BUF
  1. Mantha, Anthony [RFA Rights]
DET
  1. Cozens, Dylan
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
10$81,500,000$45,629,167$1,487,500$3,487,500$35,870,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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What ?
Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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If I was a Sabers fan, I wouldn't do that deal straight up Cozens for Mantha.
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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Insane overpay for Mantha.
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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What ?


this is what a Detroit fan said a deal for Mantha STARTS with...just trying to prove a point and that is they are delusional
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.
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Well which one is it? Oh, you mean both. No.
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
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this is what a Detroit fan said a deal for Mantha STARTS with...just trying to prove a point and that is they are delusional


Like I know Mantha is one of their only bright spots but man they overrate him like crazy, great player yes, but not worth an A prospect as well as a top 10 pick in what could be the 3rd best draft since 00 (03, 15 and 20)
Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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Lol seriously, the packages ive seen for eichel that gets shouted down as not even close dwarf that mantha price. We all love out players, what can I say
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.
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It's closer then the garbage trade that was offered on the other page. Like we would take skinner back and give up the 32nd pick along with mantha.

The point was we weren't trading mantha unless it's a significant overpay, the overpay is the 8th overall pick and cozens. Since we know buffalo won't do that, the trade is dead
Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.
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As a Wings fan this is obviously too much for Mantha. The reason people think we’re delusional in terms of Mantha prices is because we DONT WANT TO TRADE HIM so obviously if one team wants a guy and the other team doesn’t want to trade him they’ll have to overpay. This is obviously extreme though.
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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this is what a Detroit fan said a deal for Mantha STARTS with...just trying to prove a point and that is they are delusional


That's funny coming from a Montreal fan. But the truth is DETROT ISN'T TRADING MANTHA. The Montreal fans who keep posting Mantha to Montreal 5 times a day or are so frustrated they have to post stuff like this, Really need to stop WHINING and accept it Mantha isn't going to Montreal any time soon.
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 6:09 p.m.
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this is what a Detroit fan said a deal for Mantha STARTS with...just trying to prove a point and that is they are delusional


Hah! Can't believe this discussion jumped threads. Those detroit guys are super passionate about thier mantha deals. I undervalued him pretty bad in thier defense tho.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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Habs fan trying to prove a point.

Of course it is an over payment. But as I have said any trade within the division will cost more.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:40 p.m.
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so we trade the highest-rated "drafted" prospect and a high pick in a very strong draft for a guy who is past his ELC and deserves a payday.

I like Mantha but I wouldn't do Cozens or 7OA for Mantha, nevertheless both.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 11:04 p.m.
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This post is in response to my comment on a different thread about another Mantha for Domi +
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/368670?post_id=1784112

Quote was:
Making our 1st line significantly worse to make our second line better is a lateral move at best, and that's only if Domi reverts to his 70 point form AND Mantha doesn't improve.
If Detroit traded Mantha for Domi, Domi's best winger would be Robby Fabbri (after his own experiment at center ended). Domi can't drive offense like Mantha can, so he would likely put up worse numbers than he did with the Habs.

If you really wanted to pry Mantha from Detroit, one of KK/Suzuki and Montreal's 2020 1st would get the conversation started. Mantha isn't worth all that, but you'd have to overpay to that extent to even get Yzerman thinking about moving him.

Key takeaways here is that I never said Montreal should even consider that and Mantha isn't worth the package I presented. Teams with the worst offense in the league don't trade their best offensive player for downgrades and futures unless they want to get stuck in an eternal rebuild. Also, This trade is a farce, Buffalo would not even do that if Chiarelli was the GM, and this whole thing is ridiculous. Montreal fans, you're not getting Mantha, get over it, and Buffalo fans, sorry your time was wasted here.
 
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