LTIR Trades

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Created by: trickydick55

Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 2, 2020

Published: Oct. 2, 2020

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Kesler Trade- ANH is not a big market franshise and I see them wanting to shed salary for business purposes. Kesler is owed over 12 million over the next 2 years and I don't see ANH wanting to carry that for cap relief. in this instance, ANH is paying the Isles to take this contract.

Zetterberg Trade- this one is more complex. DET is def willing to take on salaries for futures. I believe JHS is a player Steve Y likes and would be willing to give him playing time in the NHL with quality players. I also believe that Leo is good fit here. when you are rebuilding, you need solid (but cheap) vets who provide a good locker room presence. the tricky part is ladd's contract. it has 3 years left, almost all signing bonus money and he is no longer an NHL capable player. the price here might be low, but I think MVS and JHS are good enough pieces to sweeten the deal enough.

if Johnny Boychuk becomes an LTIR candidate, the isles have enough room to sign hoffman, but I am okay with this roster. at some point they need Bellows or Wahlstrom to step up, so I am okay w leaving a roster spot open for them to compete for

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Aho, Sebastian	2	$800,000
Barzal, Mathew	3	$6,250,000
Pulock, Ryan	5	$5,300,000
Toews, Devon	3	$3,500,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Ryan, Bobby		2	$975,000
Greene, Andy		1	$975,000

Trades

NYI

Kesler, Ryan
2020 3rd round pick (ANA)

ANA

Golyshev, Anatoly [Reserve List]
Hutton, Grant [RFA Rights]
Pivonka, Jacob [Reserve List]

NYI

Zetterberg, Henrik
2021 4th round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

Might need some of Detriot's Garbage for Contract limit purposes

DET

Ho-Sang, Joshua [RFA Rights]
Komarov, Leo ($750,000 retained)
Ladd, Andrew
Vande Sompel, Mitch [RFA Rights]
2022 3rd round pick (NYI)

NYI

2021 2nd round pick (DAL)

DAL

Leddy, Nick

Buyouts

Rick DiPietro: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Leo Komarov: $750,000 (0%)

Buried

Thomas Hickey: $1,425,000 ($2,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$76,963,333	$0	$750,000	$4,536,667

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lee, Anders $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW NTC UFA - 6	Barzal, Mathew $6,250,000$6,250,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Eberle, Jordan $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 4
Beauvillier, Anthony $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Nelson, Brock $6,000,000$6,000,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Bailey, Josh $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW, C UFA - 4
Bellows, Kieffer $894,166$894,166 ($212,500$212K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $5,000,000$5,000,000 C NTC UFA - 6	Ryan, Bobby $975,000$975,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Cizikas, Casey $3,350,000$3,350,000 C UFA - 1	Clutterbuck, Cal $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW UFA - 2
Dal Colle, Michael $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1
Johnston, Ross $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pelech, Adam $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Pulock, Ryan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RD UFA - 2	Varlamov, Semyon $5,000,000$5,000,000 G NTC UFA - 3
Toews, Devon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LD UFA - 4	Mayfield, Scott $1,450,000$1,450,000 RD UFA - 3	Sorokin, Ilya $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Aho, Sebastian $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 2	Dobson, Noah $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RD RFA - 2
Greene, Andy $975,000$975,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Boychuk, Johnny $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Kesler, Ryan $6,875,000$6,875,000 C, RW NMC UFA - 2
		Zetterberg, Henrik $6,083,333$6,083,333 C UFA - 1

Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.

redwingsfan04

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That’s no where close on the Detroit deal. You can keep Ladd and Komarov unless you’re willing to offer us something of value.

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.

Jfstompers

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Why would Detroit eat ladd and komarov for a couple meh proapects and a 3rd. You need something of value there

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Nowhere near getting us to take on Ladds 3 x $5.5M and 2 years of Komarov Ho-Sang is looking like a bust and Vande Sompel and a 3rd isn't enough to take on those horrid contracts. Detroit's not moving Zetterberg and a 4th for that.

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.

mondo

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Staal only had a single year left. Ladd and Komorov both have multiple years left. Detroit would probably ask for the 2021 first or something around that value.

You don't need Zetterberg or Kesler either. Islanders wouldn't be able to accrue cap space next season which limits their in-season transaction flexibility. Detroit seems perfectly fine letting Zetterbergs 6 million get them to the floor for one more season.

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.

BStinson

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JHS was on waivers so if Yzerman wanted him that was the time to acquire him. Based on his latest interview I’m sure they’d take on Ladd but it would cost.

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.

aedoran

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Taking Zetterberg's contract does nothing for the Wings! He is not a negative asset in Detroit. He has 1 season left and the Wings can it all back if needed and the remaining balance of Z''s contract is $1M.

People really need to learn how LTIR works this is the 2nd or 3rd time today I've had to explain it.

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.

trickydick55

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Quoting: redwingsfan04

That’s no where close on the Detroit deal. You can keep Ladd and Komarov unless you’re willing to offer us something of value.

Mitch Vande Somple is very good Player, and if it weren't for Sebastian Aho, he'd probably be kept. with consistent year over year progression in all aspects of his game, he should be NHL ready in the next 2 years and has a top 4 ceiling. JHS is still very skilled very dynamic player, he would fit very will on a Dylan Larkin line. the kid is an NHL talent and with a chip on his shoulder he is going to light it up wherever he goes.

Komorav is not an eat. he's a solid pker, can play both wings and center effectively, is a very good locker room presence, is popular with younger players, he's a decent bottom 6 player and at 750,000 retained, the cap hit is in line with where it should be for the position.

Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:58 p.m.

BCAPP

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Kesler's contract is apparently at least 80% insured...

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 6:11 p.m.

redwingsfan04

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Quoting: trickydick55

Ho-Sang has cleared waivers. He has no value. Komarov might have some value to a contender but he has no value to Detroit since we already have way to many veteran bottom 6 forwards. Vande Sompel is a decent prospect but he’s nowhere close to dumping Ladd on his own.

Oct. 2, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.

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mikearky

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Quoting: trickydick55

Sorry, this deal is just not cutting it. JHS is a bust, he is 24 and can not the big club. Dynamic, really, if he is so dynamic why was he in the AHL for the season?

Vande Sompel is 23 and decent but high 4 ceiling? Maybe 5 or 6 but nowhere close to top 2 or 3.

I think you beleive if you talk up the two B prospects Wings fans will say yes or consider it. Islanders are in cap hell and if Stevie is smart he will leverage alot more than what was posted, otherwise good luck and don't call us.

Oct. 2, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.

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OldNYIfan

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My understanding is that Kesler's contract is 80% covered by insurance, so Anaheim owes him $1.35 million for each of the last two years of his contract. That's not a burden to us, especially given the favorable discrepancy between cap hits and actual compensation owed this year. It's close to $10 million even without Kesler. (See, for example, Getzlaf, Backes and Gudbranson; there are others.)

Oct. 2, 2020 at 7:02 p.m.

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I don't know how flush Ana owners are, but I don't think 1.35 million is NOTHING, but its not all that much. I don't think they'd want random players they have to pay back. Perhaps someone could get them to pay up like a 4th or 5th to pay that 2.7 million. But don't expect anything significnat.

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