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Matheson would be Ottawas second best D

Created by: Chigurrhh
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 3, 2021
Published: Feb. 3, 2021
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Dadonov honestly makes zero sense in Ottawa. Ottawa is pretty horrible but has a couple of good young players. At 31 and signed for three years, he doesn't fit the timeline at all.

Matheson is much younger and would somehow manage to be an upgrade defensively for them.
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Feb. 3, 2021 at 1:47 a.m.
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Au-revoir Dorion
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nope!
Feb. 3, 2021 at 1:48 a.m.
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Replacing unwatchably bad players with players who are mearly terrible is not how you build a team. Also that contract is an absolute non starter, there's no way Ottawa needs to handcuff themselves for 6 years when they have Brannstrom and Sanderson.
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Feb. 3, 2021 at 1:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Replacing unwatchably bad players with players who are mearly terrible is not how you build a team. Also that contract is an absolute non starter, there's no way Ottawa needs to handcuff themselves for 6 years when they have Brannstrom and Sanderson.


They ever going to have a coach who will use those players? lol
Feb. 3, 2021 at 1:53 a.m.
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Meh player on a bad contract and Ottawa adds a second LOL
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Feb. 3, 2021 at 1:56 a.m.
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They ever going to have a coach who will use those players? lol


If not you kick DJ to the curb and find a guy who will. DJ Smith doesn't decide the future of this team
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Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:00 a.m.
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Meh player on a bad contract and Ottawa adds a second LOL
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Your eyes betray you. Ottawa gets a second.
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:11 a.m.
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“Matheson...would somehow manage to be an upgrade defensively for them.”

This is a great comment, because you realize Matheson is bad defensively.

Ottawa declines
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:18 a.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
“Matheson...would somehow manage to be an upgrade defensively for them.”

This is a great comment, because you realize Matheson is bad defensively.

Ottawa declines


Well, yes. Why else would I want him traded?
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:22 a.m.
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Ottawa gives up a good veteran mentor and 25 goal guy who will help establish a Russian presence (Zub, Sokolov, help Galchenyuk bounce back) for a 2nd and an atrocious defenseman who couldn’t even succeed in FLORIDA and has one of the worst contracts in the league? I think not. We aren’t trading Dadonov and if we did trade him for a D it would be for one that can actually play defense, not Reilly but with a massive contract.
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:52 a.m.
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Edited Feb. 3, 2021 at 3:15 a.m.
Quoting: Chigurrhh
Well, yes. Why else would I want him traded?


I want Reilly traded

Reilly for Matheson
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Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
If not you kick DJ to the curb and find a guy who will. DJ Smith doesn't decide the future of this team


Absolutely. Heck he might not even make it until March. Todd Richards had 3 .550 seasons with CBJ and an 0-7 start reduced that 'legacy' to rubble asap
Feb. 3, 2021 at 3:01 a.m.
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Matheson is less of a fit for the timeline though

Why would Ottawa want Matheson age 30 to 33 at that cap hit while Stutzle, Brannstrom, etc. lead them to the playoffs every season and $ is crucial?

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Feb. 3, 2021 at 3:12 a.m.
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Absolutely. Heck he might not even make it until March. Todd Richards had 3 .550 seasons with CBJ and an 0-7 start reduced that 'legacy' to rubble asap


The Sens are already at 9. The Sens need a convincing win in their next game, but the way they've been playing, I can't see them standing a chance against MTL.
Feb. 3, 2021 at 4:35 a.m.
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Pens add, a lot. No one is taking Matheson's sh*t contract without Pens compensating for it.

Then make a good value trade for Dadonov.

I'm thinking something like...

Pittsburgh Penguins
Evgeni Dadonov
Logan Brown

Ottawa Senators
Mike Matheson
Jared McCann
Samuel Poulin/Nathan Legare, both are fine.
2022 1st round pick (PIT)
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Feb. 3, 2021 at 5:17 a.m.
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Pens add, a lot. No one is taking Matheson's sh*t contract without Pens compensating for it.

Then make a good value trade for Dadonov.

I'm thinking something like...

Pittsburgh Penguins
Evgeni Dadonov
Logan Brown

Ottawa Senators
Mike Matheson
Jared McCann
Samuel Poulin/Nathan Legare, both are fine.
2022 1st round pick (PIT)
2023 2nd round pick (PIT)


Swap Logan Brown for Connor Brown and I'd be somewhat interested.
Feb. 3, 2021 at 5:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Chigurrhh
Swap Logan Brown for Connor Brown and I'd be somewhat interested.


Sure if the Pens add Björkvist
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Feb. 3, 2021 at 5:35 a.m.
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Sure if the Pens add Björkvist


Eh, that wouldn't make much of a difference to me. He's not a super high level prospect. Missed last season with ACL surgery.
Feb. 3, 2021 at 7:37 a.m.
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The team with 1 roster D man left shouldn't be trading D away.. Also PIT fans are really high on the kid so why move him
Feb. 3, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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ain't OTT fans been through enough you over trolling them with this mess.
Feb. 3, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.
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The team with 1 roster D man left shouldn't be trading D away.. Also PIT fans are really high on the kid so why move him


PIT fans are absolutely not high on him lol.
Feb. 3, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Chigurrhh
PIT fans are absolutely not high on him lol.



I've heard 2 pumping him up in the last few days. Unless they are trying to over sell him and convince people he is actually good
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:26 p.m.
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I've heard 2 pumping him up in the last few days. Unless they are trying to over sell him and convince people he is actually good


That sounds way more likely. In a vacuum, he's a player with good skating and the potential to make a good first pass out of the zone. Problem is his insane contract, struggles last year, and the fact that he was acquired when the Penguins had a 21-year-old LD who was ready for that spot. That 21-year-old LD has been the team's best defenseman this year and would never have gotten the chance if Matheson, Dumoulin, Pettersson, and Riikola had not gotten injured.
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.
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That sounds way more likely. In a vacuum, he's a player with good skating and the potential to make a good first pass out of the zone. Problem is his insane contract, struggles last year, and the fact that he was acquired when the Penguins had a 21-year-old LD who was ready for that spot. That 21-year-old LD has been the team's best defenseman this year and would never have gotten the chance if Matheson, Dumoulin, Pettersson, and Riikola had not gotten injured.


POJ is sick! I'd love to see him and k'andre playing on the same line. That reach, puck control...
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:44 p.m.
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POJ is sick! I'd love to see him and k'andre playing on the same line. That reach, puck control...


Yeah, Joseph is really smooth. I've been really impressed by him in the offensive zone, which is much better than advertised.

Miller is also much further along than I thought he could be at this point. That combination of size+skating is going to be a problem for everyone else. Really impressive.
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