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Playing Around

Created by: awaters2121
Initial Creation Date: Mar 1, 2021
Published: Mar 1 at 2:54
Team: 2020-21 Detroit Red Wings
Trades
DET
  1. Okposo, Kyle
  2. Eichel, Jack
  3. 2022 1st round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Mantha, Anthony
  2. Rasmussen, Michael
  3. Zadina, Filip
  4. Lindström, Gustav
  5. 2021 1st round pick (DET)
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (DET)
  7. 2022 4th round pick (VGK)
  8. 2023 2nd round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Neal, James ($2,875,000 retained)
EDM
  1. Nielsen, Frans ($2,625,000 retained)
DET
  1. Reimer, James
  2. 2021 7th round pick (STL)
  3. 2022 7th round pick (CBJ)
CAR
  1. Bernier, Jonathan
DET
  1. Carrier, William
  2. 2022 5th round pick (BUF)
VGK
  1. Ryan, Bobby
DET
  1. 2022 4th round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Staal, Marc
DET
  1. Eriksson, Loui ($3,000,000 retained)
  2. Virtanen, Jake
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
  4. 2022 4th round pick (VAN)
  5. 2022 6th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Glendening, Luke
Buyouts
  • Justin Abdelkader: $1,805,556
  • Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Frans Nielsen: $2,625,000 (50%)
  • David Savard: $1,062,500 (25%)
  • Patrik Nemeth: $1,500,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
EDM
NYR
DET
VGK
DET
DET
DET
STL
2022
DET
BUF
DET
DET
DET
BOS
VAN
DET
BUF
DET
VAN
DET
CBJ
2023
DET
VAN
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$77,370,514$0$370,000$4,129,486

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$3,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
DET
Fabbri, Robby
$2,950,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
EDM
Neal, James
$2,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
DET
Svechnikov, Evgeny
$874,125
LW
RFA - 1
DET
Namestnikov, Vladislav
$2,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 2
DET
Bromé, Mathias
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
VGK
Carrier, William
$1,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
DET
Filppula, Valtteri
$3,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
$2,550,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
DET
Helm, Darren
$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
DET
Gagner, Sam
$850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
VAN
Eriksson, Loui
$3,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Hronek, Filip
$714,166
RD
RFA - 1
DET
Greiss, Thomas
$3,600,000
G
UFA - 2
DET
Nemeth, Patrik
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
DET
Stecher, Troy
$1,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
DET
Merrill, Jon
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
DET
Djoos, Christian
$1,000,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DET
Erne, Adam
$997,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Zetterberg, Henrik
$6,083,333
C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
DET
Pickard, Calvin
$750,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 1
DET
Cholowski, Dennis
$894,166 ($0)
LD
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Bertuzzi, T.
Eichel, J.
Larkin, D.
Hronek, F.
Fabbri, R.
Power Play 2
Svechnikov, E.
Namestnikov, V.
Okposo, K.
, .
Djoos, C.
Penalty Kill 1
Namestnikov, V.
Helm, D.
, .
Hronek, F.
Penalty Kill 2
Larkin, D.
Bertuzzi, T.
, .
Stecher, T.

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Mar 1 at 2:56
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I mean try again with the bruins one lol. He certainly isnt worth that
Mar 1 at 2:57
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imawesome
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No way Carolina does that
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Mar 1 at 2:59
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Quoting: imawesome
No way Carolina does that


Yeah Bean has got a on a tear this season. Besides, bernier isn't that good.
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Mar 1 at 3:00
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It isn't worth Bean to upgrade from Bernier to Reimer, since the upgrade hardly exists
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Mar 1 at 3:15
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That is one weak ass Dunn offer. Besides, he's not available, despite what any fake reports may tell you. And certainly not during this season.
Mar 1 at 3:15
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Sabres decline
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Mar 1 at 3:17
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Edmonton might be the only one approved by the other team. Detroit is worse after the Eichel trade but there is still no way Buffalo agrees to it.
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Mar 1 at 3:24
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
I mean try again with the bruins one lol. He certainly isnt worth that


I'd mostly agree. Staal has played well for the Wings and NBC Sports Network and the Bruins broadcast seems to value him pretty high. Bruins could use some depth at D but I'm not sure they would be willing to "Spare" a third-round pick. But if they are going for it then they might make that dumb of a decision.
Mar 1 at 3:26
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Quoting: mokumboi
That is one weak ass Dunn offer. Besides, he's not available, despite what any fake reports may tell you. And certainly not during this season.


Yeah, it makes way more sense for the Blues to move him during the offseason. Blues could use an upgrade on the 4th line center. But it's pure dreaming that Glenny could get a return of Dunn.
Mar 1 at 3:29
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Quoting: awaters2121
I'd mostly agree. Staal has played well for the Wings and NBC Sports Network and the Bruins broadcast seems to value him pretty high. Bruins could use some depth at D but I'm not sure they would be willing to "Spare" a third-round pick. But if they are going for it then they might make that dumb of a decision.


I mean i think the thing about it is that its not really gonna be a bidding war or anything. So they will probably offer a 4th TOPS and see what happens
Mar 1 at 3:34
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Yeah Bean has got a on a tear this season. Besides, bernier isn't that good.


Much like the Dunn trade, it makes a lot more sense for Carolina to move Bean in the offseason with more value. I do disagree that Bernier wouldn't be a significant upgrade, Canes need better goaltending and you have to remember that Bernier has been exceptional for the past two years with a terrible to subpar defense in front of him. But, the Canes could get a different goalie who has a greater value in the offseason. I'm just not sure they are going to find too many goalies during the season, it's just likely they can find similar value at a much less cost. I'm just dreaming they value Bernier that high and want that value with Bean currently being on a tear.
Mar 1 at 3:35
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I think Vegas would do that if Det also took Nosek or Carrier back in the deal too.

Nosek is a pending UFA, so it would probably be him.
Mar 1 at 3:37
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Quoting: Vegasloveforthebills
I think Vegas would do that if Det also took Nosek or Carrier back in the deal too.

Nosek is a pending UFA, so it would probably be him.


I had considered this but I didn't think Vegas would want to lose him, I figure they want the depth for the playoffs.
Mar 1 at 3:39
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when EVERY fanbase tells you that their team doesnt want the trade youre trade values are probably incorrect.
Mar 1 at 3:39
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Quoting: awaters2121
I had considered this but I didn't think Vegas would want to lose him, I figure they want the depth for the playoffs.

In a perfect world they probably would.

But they need to someone when McNabb is healthy. They are 600k over the cap then. Moving him and taking Ryan at 500k puts them just under.

Or like I mentioned maybe someone like Carrier. 1.4 for 3 more years after this one.
Mar 1 at 3:46
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
I mean i think the thing about it is that its not really gonna be a bidding war or anything. So they will probably offer a 4th TOPS and see what happens


Yea, I questioned whether it should be a fourth or fifth. The one thing that makes me think he might be more attractive is the Wings can take on more of the cap hit, he has a $1,000,000 signing bonus that was already paid and a base salary of $3,200,000 that the Wings will have paid a lot of and can eat part of with the salary retention. So he would end up being pretty cheap for a new team. Might make his value go up slightly. But I think you are right, a fourth seems like a lot even with that.
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Mar 1 at 3:55
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Quoting: awaters2121
Yea, I questioned whether it should be a fourth or fifth. The one thing that makes me think he might be more attractive is the Wings can take on more of the cap hit, he has a $1,000,000 signing bonus that was already paid and a base salary of $3,200,000 that the Wings will have paid a lot of and can eat part of with the salary retention. So he would end up being pretty cheap for a new team. Might make his value go up slightly. But I think you are right, a fourth seems like a lot even with that.


I mean thats all fair too. I guess its worth it to do a 4th.
I also wanna apologize if my first comment was at all sarcastic, dealing with a lot of uneducated fans today lol
You get it tho so I appreciate that
Mar 1 at 4:02
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Basically every team not named Detroit easily passes.
Mar 1 at 4:04
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Quoting: aedoran
Edmonton might be the only one approved by the other team. Detroit is worse after the Eichel trade but there is still no way Buffalo agrees to it.


I do love the Edmonton trade. Neal could potentially add some more scoring on the 3rd or 4th line. Unlikely, but has more potential than Neilsen. Costs a little more next year for the Wings, which they can afford. Saves Edmonton some money next year then free's up money when they need to sign RNH. Then it would cost less for the wings in 2022-23 if Neal retires or gets sent down.

Franchise centers are hard to come by so I think Eichel would be worth the amount the Wings send, which I agree probably still isn't enough. Just kind of love the idea of Americans Eichel and Larkin leading the way for the Wings.
Mar 1 at 4:09
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Quoting: hanson493
when EVERY fanbase tells you that their team doesnt want the trade youre trade values are probably incorrect.


When the TITLE says Playing Around it typically means it's unlikely anyone is going to agree with the trade values.
Mar 1 at 4:23
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Quoting: awaters2121
When the TITLE says Playing Around it typically means it's unlikely anyone is going to agree with the trade values.


or it could mean you were messing around with the roster and wanted to see what certain scenarios looked like.
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Mar 1 at 5:05
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Hot Take: Mrazek keeps up his mojo when he come back, and he wins the Vezina.
Mar 1 at 8:41
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Quoting: awaters2121
I do love the Edmonton trade. Neal could potentially add some more scoring on the 3rd or 4th line. Unlikely, but has more potential than Neilsen. Costs a little more next year for the Wings, which they can afford. Saves Edmonton some money next year then free's up money when they need to sign RNH. Then it would cost less for the wings in 2022-23 if Neal retires or gets sent down.

Franchise centers are hard to come by so I think Eichel would be worth the amount the Wings send, which I agree probably still isn't enough. Just kind of love the idea of Americans Eichel and Larkin leading the way for the Wings.


But Neal is producing any more than Neilson at this point so why add another year of $5M+ they can keep Neal because he isn't bringing any thing to Wing's worth his cap hit. This is the trade that makes the least sense for Detroit. Not sure why'd you like it unless your an Edmonton fan. Which makes sense because no true Wing's or true Blackhawk's fan is going to choose the other as their second favorite team.
 
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