Yup

Nah that’s too much. From day one I’ve said Kakko + Nils + 2021 1st is fair game. But apparently people in Ranger land think Braden Schneider, who’s ceiling is maybe a 3 on a good team, as well as a 2021 1st and a good prospect would get it done. Hard to get a deal done when people think the rangers have 30 untouchable prospects

cant wait to see buffalo fans reaction when a trade either does happen or they keep him and keep killing him

They are asking for 4 1sts or equivalent.. envision the asking price being this...

21’ 1st
22’ 1st
23’ 1st
24’ 1st

Now you’re jumping into a they need a 1OA, 2OA, 2 1sts+

Or they just get equal value for him....

equal value being 4 1sts worth of value...(which they likely wont get) but Schneider, kravtsov , strome, (small prospect) and a 1sts is that. If they want chytil... its chytil, kravtsov, a smaller defensive prospect, 1sts ( we have no need to overpay

I'd prefer it if they keep him

go ahead.

Just because a player was picked in the first round doesn’t mean their value is that of a first. I don’t think Kravtsov would fetch a first rounder based off of his play over the past two seasons.

It’s not just first rounders either. It’s the quality of the first rounders. The number 1 pick and the 30th pick are both first rounders, but one is significantly more valuable.

That trade doesn’t give the the Sabres anything to really build on- a middle pair defenseman, a middle 6 winger, a #2 center (who is either RFA’d or can walk after next season), and a low first isn’t worth a superstar of Eichels status.

so they can waste his good years?
a true fan would want them to trade Eichel and save the rest of his career.
if Buffalo keeps him, minimum 4 years before they could contend for playoffs (and that is if they get every lucky bounce along the way).

He’s still only be what, 27? 28?

his age is not the point.
his ability to deal with finishing in the bottom 5 of the league during that time is the point.
if Eichel has 4 more losing seasons, he will be an "old" 28.

You may be right or wrong but one thing is for sure, no team can add 10m in cap without sending some back.

If and its still a big IF that is the return you get, expect those teams to add some unwanted cap going back they other way. We're talking Deangelo for sure as well as probably Strome just so NYR can stay cap compliant.

Never mind saving his career, fans of other teams should want that. A real BUF fan will understand that today they get more for him than they will in 3 years. Or he walks as a UFA later on and they just burn 5 years where they could rebuild into a competitive team. You know what 8 1sts in 4 years looks like?? Of course you do, you’re a NYR fan too!! That’s a rebuild

Nobody’s paying that

Is age is quite literally the point....lol just because he’s getting traded doesn’t mean the team who acquires him will suddenly be thrown into the playoff picture. Crazy idea- work your ass off to be apart of the solution and keep chugging along till you get there. Not to be the old guy in the room but you signed a contract, now you have to honor it

I don’t think they get this the longer it goes in, and outside of lindros there’s zero precedence of any star really fetching this kind of package.

oh man if Buff fans were disappointed before...

i'd argue that if a team is actually trading for Eichel it is for the push for contention.
Eichel has been working his bag off for 6 years, the organization has done nothing to help him.
human nature - you can only work so hard before you have to give up because those around you don't give a damn...

this is a business - no one has to honor a contract.

Laffy, K.Miller, Kakko, 1st round 2022 3rd 2022

Actually in every aspect of business you are legally required to honor a contract. That’s what a contract is- a legally binding agreement between two parties.

Buffalo has made efforts to acquire good pieces, they just backfire. It’s not for a lack of spending, and it’s really not for a lack of trying. Not trying, or “not giving a damn” would be then sitting on their hands this past off-season and say yeah, we’re not gonna do anything. They signed hall, staal, traded for Montour- moves that at the time we’re applauded in the media. They’re a dumpster fire don’t get me wrong but you can’t say they don’t “give a damn”

that my point as well (they wont be getting laf type first rounders ). We can also agree to disagree on kravtsov but his play over this year has shown he is worth it but again we can agree to disagree. There looking to get 4 1sts and they wont be laf type 1sts and we wont give up anything that will ruin our development

We agree on that- it shouldn’t be 4 Lafreniere type of first rounders. That’s asinine. Lafreniere was regarded as an Eichel type talent coming out.

I do not think, however, that giving up one high first rounder (Kakko), a B+ prospect (Nils) plus a first rounder that’s looking like a top 12ish pick in this draft is an outrageous ask. Kakko isn’t a Laf type talent- neither is Nils. They both have really good potential but nothing on that level. The 2021 first is tough because you have eligible guys that haven’t competed in over a year, so it’s not as valuable as it normally would be in any other year

oh I'm not necessarily saying that kakko, nils,1st is crazy but with the rangers viewing nils as an A+ prospects especially because of his stats and growth over the past couple of years I think they'd be more comfortable doing a kravtsov, chytil, Robertson (could be another prospect aka ruetanen or whatever) and a 1sts

Makes sense, pleasure speaking with you