What I think the Devils will get for Palmieri

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Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2020-21 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 3, 2021

Published: Apr. 3, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Pierre Lebrun said this on twitter about Palmieri's chances of remaining with the Devils:

"You never know how these things go at the 11th hour, but my gut feeling is there won't be an extension. I see a trade coming."

The trade with Anaheim from 2015 that sent Palmieri to the Devils in the first place should serve as a rough guide on what Palmieri might be worth or what teams might be willing to pay for him.

Some people might feel Palmieri is worth a first round pick but I don't.

If Taylor Hall is not worth a 1st round pick, then neither is Palmieri IMO.

It is what it is :/

The list of teams that are in this post are the teams that are interested in Palmieri, according to the Fourth Period.

Let me know your thoughts about what a trade for Palmieri would look like and I'll see you in the comments :D

Trades

NJD

2021 2nd round pick (COL)
2022 3rd round pick (NYI)

NYI

Palmieri, Kyle ($2,325,000 retained)

Additional Details:

This is what I think the Devils get for Palmieri.

The 2015 trade with Anaheim to bring Palmieri to the Devils in the first place should serve as a rough guide IMO.

NJD

2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
2022 3rd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Palmieri at 50% retention

NJD

2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
2022 3rd round pick (BOS)

BOS

Palmieri at 50% retention

NJD

2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
2022 3rd round pick (PIT)

PIT

Palmieri at 50% retention

Buyouts

Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
Mike Cammalleri: $1,666,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Kyle Palmieri: $2,325,000 (100%)

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Buried

Connor Carrick: $425,000 ($1,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$62,658,553	$0	$4,047,500	$18,841,447

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bratt, Jesper $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Zajac, Travis $2,875,000$2,875,000 C NTC UFA - 1	Sharangovich, Yegor $775,833$775,833 ($132,500$132K) C, LW, RW UFA - 1
Kuokkanen, Janne $811,666$811,666 ($32,500$32K) LW, C UFA - 1	Hughes, Jack $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C UFA - 2
Wood, Miles $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 2	Zacha, Pavel $2,250,000$2,250,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Merkley, Nick $874,125$874,125 RW, C UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	McLeod, Michael $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) C RFA - 1	Boqvist, Jesper $925,000$925,000 C, LW RFA - 2
		Gusev, Nikita $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Smith, Ty $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Severson, Damon $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 3	Blackwood, Mackenzie $2,800,000$2,800,000 G UFA - 3
Kulikov, Dmitry $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Subban, P.K. $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD UFA - 2	Dell, Aaron $800,000$800,000 G UFA - 1
Murray, Ryan $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Vatanen, Sami $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Wedgewood, Scott $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Hischier, Nico $7,250,000$7,250,000 C UFA - 7
	Bastian, Nathan $714,166$714,166 ($132,500$132K) RW UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Butcher, Will $2,822,764$2,822,764 ($1,747,764$2M$1,747,764$2M) LD UFA - 2
Thompson, Tyce $912,500$912,500 ($0$0$0$0) ($25,000$25K) RW RFA - 2
Maltsev, Mikhail $809,167$809,167 ($0$0$0$0) ($132,500$132K) C, LW UFA - 2
Okhotiuk, Nikita $795,000$795,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD RFA - 4
Jacobs, Josh $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 1

Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.

Chris1022

Chris

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I don’t think they’ll trade Palmeri 4 times.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.

Zmach

Pistol Pete

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Edmonton’s trades have to be cap for cap. If Palmieri was a Left shot they would be pretty hot for him.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.

sensonfire

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Quoting: Chris1022

I don’t think they’ll trade Palmeri 4 times.

I just listed the 4 teams that are interested in Palmieri, according to the 4th period.

He's only getting traded once.

Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.

Chris1022

Chris

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Quoting: sensonfire

I just listed the 4 teams that are interested in Palmieri, according to the 4th period.

He's only getting traded once.

i know. it was a joke.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:12 p.m.

Devil

Speak of the Devil

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Palmieri should have more value than this.

Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.

sensonfire

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Quoting: Devil1122

Palmieri should have more value than this.

When the deadline comes, I think you might be in for a bit of a disappointment

Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.

GiantBoots

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This sounds about right, and I like Boston as a possible trade partner. They need offence.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:32 p.m.

Book_Hockey

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Fitzgerald is on the record as saying he'd prefer prospects to picks for Palms. I think a trade to the Islanders for Wilde and 2nd is the move.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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“No more than 4th for Marcus Johansson”
“No more than 1st for Taylor Hall”
“No more than 2nd for Blake Coleman”
“Devils have to pay to move Andy Greene”
“No more than 5th for injured Sami Vatanen”

Blah blah blah

Devils fans expect 1st + 3rd, or 1st + lesser prospect or 2nd + better prospect.
That is probably right.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.

#10

Devil

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Quoting: sensonfire

When the deadline comes, I think you might be in for a bit of a disappointment

There aren't many top 6 wingers on the market. Hall and Foligno are the other two. With limited options, Palamieri's value would go up

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.

#11

Pensfan89

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

The problem is, that this year is a buyers market (at least right now). I think Palms likely gets a bit more than this, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if they only got this return for him.
I’d love him on the pens but he’d be a luxury, not a necessity. So they wouldn’t pay big money for him.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.

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MartysBetter29

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Quoting: Pensfan89

On the pens, sure. But for teams like the Islanders or Bruins for example I don't think hes a luxury. Scoring, grinder winger is very valuable come playoffs.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 2:49 p.m.

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MartysBetter29

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All due respect I don't think basing any kind of Palmieri trade off the trade from 6 years ago is a great strategy. At the time of that trade his goal totals were 1,4,10,14,14. Since then he has scored 30,26,24,27,25,8 so far this year. That is a very different level of player and should demand very different value, even as a rental.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.

#14

Smitty426

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No the trade in '15 is what they could get for him.
Had they known what he would do, it would have been more.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 7:15 p.m.

#15

Pensfan89

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Quoting: MartysBetter29

On the pens, sure. But for teams like the Islanders or Bruins for example I don't think hes a luxury. Scoring, grinder winger is very valuable come playoffs.

Meh maybe the islanders but the Bruins is still kinda a luxury with everyone healthy. The problem with the isles though is I believe they have like no deadline cap space so the devils would have to take a player like Komorov back. Which would likely get them a 1st and prospect for palms. But you’re taking a cap dump back to do it. I think most teams will look for defense depth over forward depth. Pens are one team that would likely look for forward depth over defense depth.

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