Are they physical enough

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May 19, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.

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After watching the last few days of playoffs are the Leafs physical and Dirty enough to win in the playoffs?

My concern is when the Refs put the whistle away Can they match other teams physically?

May 19, 2021 at 3:49 p.m.

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I think so but its certainly not their #1 style

I think they can not get b**ched around and can throw some of their own, but the skill and possesion game is still the top priority

May 19, 2021 at 3:51 p.m.

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No. Simmonds being their only tough guy, the leafs will be manhandled by any team that has more than one big body tough guy. Take MTL for example: Weber,Edmundson,Anderson,Chiarot,Romanov(Hitter) that's quite a bit more than the one guy. If I was the leafs head coach, I'd put simmonds with 34 reasoning is it's the playoffs guys get dirty and it ends up getting stars hurt. If the Leafs want any hope of making it out of Canada they should have their tough guy up top protecting their stars.

May 19, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.

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I don't really care so long as they put the puck in the net more times than the other team.

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May 19, 2021 at 3:55 p.m.

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No, the Habs will bully the Leafs unfortunately. Get ready for Corey Perry to hit Campbell in the head

May 19, 2021 at 3:56 p.m.

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To get out of the soft North, yes...to go any further, no.

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May 19, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.

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The Leafs are a puck possession, higher skill team.

That being said, they are physical enough to not get steamrolled. They can hold their own.

And not dirty like a certain team based in Florida (Not named the Panthers)

May 19, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.

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Quoting: nbw_r3ap3r

No. Simmonds being their only tough guy, the leafs will be manhandled by any team that has more than one big body tough guy. Take MTL for example: Weber,Edmundson,Anderson,Chiarot,Romanov(Hitter) that's quite a bit more than the one guy. If I was the leafs head coach, I'd put simmonds with 34 reasoning is it's the playoffs guys get dirty and it ends up getting stars hurt. If the Leafs want any hope of making it out of Canada they should have their tough guy up top protecting their stars.

The habs tried to "manhandle" the leafs earlier this year, badly out hit them. Leafs played through it and outscored them. they don't have to match the physicality but with Simmonds, Foligno, Hyman, thornton and even Tavares. They got plenty of grit to roll with. Matthews is big and he handles himself pretty well, I'm interested to see how he plays when the intensity ratchets up.

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May 19, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.

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Quoting: NazemKadri43

No, the Habs will bully the Leafs unfortunately. Get ready for Corey Perry to hit Campbell in the head

hey habs fan

May 19, 2021 at 3:59 p.m.

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its hilarious because colorado was dead last in the league in hits, came 1st in the league, but no what about the leafs?

May 19, 2021 at 4:02 p.m.

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Quoting: nbw_r3ap3r

No. Simmonds being their only tough guy, the leafs will be manhandled by any team that has more than one big body tough guy. Take MTL for example: Weber,Edmundson,Anderson,Chiarot,Romanov(Hitter) that's quite a bit more than the one guy. If I was the leafs head coach, I'd put simmonds with 34 reasoning is it's the playoffs guys get dirty and it ends up getting stars hurt. If the Leafs want any hope of making it out of Canada they should have their tough guy up top protecting their stars.

I agree. My worry is not the first 2 rounds as Montreal will be more physical but do not have the talent to keep up with the Leafs and the Oilers (or Jets) I think they can handle. My concern is when you get to Tampa, Boston, Washington etc. They all have lots of skill and can bang.

IF the game was called as the rule book states I have no worries about this team. When it gets DIRTY I am not so sure

May 19, 2021 at 4:03 p.m.

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Quoting: BigDaddyOvech

The habs tried to "manhandle" the leafs earlier this year, badly out hit them. Leafs played through it and outscored them. they don't have to match the physicality but with Simmonds, Foligno, Hyman, thornton and even Tavares. They got plenty of grit to roll with. Matthews is big and he handles himself pretty well, I'm interested to see how he plays when the intensity ratchets up.

I'd like to see that too. It's not like he's small, 6'3 over 200 pounds I think... If Jumbo can get in the lineup then yeah he has some grit not a lot. I've never seen Hyman go into the dirty areas on the ice but then again I don't watch the leafs a lot. Foligno yes he'll drop the mitts every now and then. If the leafs can just worry about scoring and no stars get hurt then they are good but I wouldn't wanna be the guys playing dirty Corey Perry in the playoffs. The guy goes for dirty hits on stars.

May 19, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.

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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart

The Leafs are a puck possession, higher skill team.

That being said, they are physical enough to not get steamrolled. They can hold their own.

And not dirty like a certain team based in Florida (Not named the Panthers)

But can you win in the playoffs the way the NHL calls it?

May 19, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.

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Quoting: BigDaddyOvech

The habs tried to "manhandle" the leafs earlier this year, badly out hit them. Leafs played through it and outscored them. they don't have to match the physicality but with Simmonds, Foligno, Hyman, thornton and even Tavares. They got plenty of grit to roll with. Matthews is big and he handles himself pretty well, I'm interested to see how he plays when the intensity ratchets up.

Nash is no pushover either, if I recall correctly.

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May 19, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.

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They'll be fine in the North Division. I think they might have some trouble if they make it out of their division

May 19, 2021 at 4:07 p.m.

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I agree. My worry is not the first 2 rounds as Montreal will be more physical but do not have the talent to keep up with the Leafs and the Oilers (or Jets) I think they can handle. My concern is when you get to Tampa, Boston, Washington etc. They all have lots of skill and can bang.

IF the game was called as the rule book states I have no worries about this team. When it gets DIRTY I am not so sure

If The Leafs and Oiler meet, the Oilers will dominate in hitting/agressiveness ect. But if the leafs can just focus on puttin the puck in the net which should be hard with Smitty there but if they can pull that off they may make it out of the North. I say if the DRY line heats up in the 1st round and is hot in the 2nd Oilers would win just based on what it did last year.

May 19, 2021 at 4:07 p.m.

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Quoting: nbw_r3ap3r

If The Leafs and Oiler meet, the Oilers will dominate in hitting/agressiveness ect. But if the leafs can just focus on puttin the puck in the net which should be hard with Smitty there but if they can pull that off they may make it out of the North. I say if the DRY line heats up in the 1st round and is hot in the 2nd Oilers would win just based on what it did last year.

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its hilarious because colorado was dead last in the league in hits, came 1st in the league, but no what about the leafs?

Quoting: kous

After watching the last few days of playoffs are the Leafs physical and Dirty enough to win in the playoffs?

My concern is when the Refs put the whistle away Can they match other teams physically?

[FORWARDS]

(6'1" 211 lbs) --- (6'3" 220 lbs) --- (6'0" 175 lbs) | (LINE 1)
(6'0" 211 lbs) --- (6'1" 215 lbs) --- (6'0" 196 lbs) | (LINE 2)
(5'10" 185 lbs) --- (6'2" 188 lbs) --- (6'3" 195 lbs) | (LINE 3)
(6'4" 220 lbs) --- (6'3" 216 lbs) --- (6'2" 185 lbs) | (LINE 4)

[DEFENCE]

(6'1" 219 lbs) --- (6'1" 185 lbs) | (PAIR 1)
(6'3" 217 lbs) --- (6'4" 210 lbs) | (PAIR 2)
(5'11" 183 lbs) --- (6'2" 200 lbs) | (PAIR 3)

[GOALTENDING]

(6'2" 197 lbs)
(6'4" 238 lbs)
(6'3" 206 lbs)

you heard it here first, this small skill-only team is gonna get bullied come playoff time

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May 19, 2021 at 4:10 p.m.

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But can you win in the playoffs the way the NHL calls it?

I think so. They’re no cup contender in my mind until they make it at least past round 1. But they’re not afraid to be physical when they need to be. Finding a balance between a physical game and their style of play should make them a team who can go deep.

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May 19, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.

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Quoting: nbw_r3ap3r

I'd like to see that too. It's not like he's small, 6'3 over 200 pounds I think... If Jumbo can get in the lineup then yeah he has some grit not a lot. I've never seen Hyman go into the dirty areas on the ice but then again I don't watch the leafs a lot. Foligno yes he'll drop the mitts every now and then. If the leafs can just worry about scoring and no stars get hurt then they are good but I wouldn't wanna be the guys playing dirty Corey Perry in the playoffs. The guy goes for dirty hits on stars.

You've obviously never watched the Leafs then if you haven't seen Hyman go into dirty areas.

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May 19, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.

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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason

Nash is no pushover either, if I recall correctly.

Totally forgot about Nash. I'm excited to see him play.

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May 19, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.

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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas

[FORWARDS]

(6'1" 211 lbs) --- (6'3" 220 lbs) --- (6'0" 175 lbs) | (LINE 1)
(6'0" 211 lbs) --- (6'1" 215 lbs) --- (6'0" 196 lbs) | (LINE 2)
(5'10" 185 lbs) --- (6'2" 188 lbs) --- (6'3" 195 lbs) | (LINE 3)
(6'4" 220 lbs) --- (6'3" 216 lbs) --- (6'2" 185 lbs) | (LINE 4)

[DEFENCE]

(6'1" 219 lbs) --- (6'1" 185 lbs) | (PAIR 1)
(6'3" 217 lbs) --- (6'4" 210 lbs) | (PAIR 2)
(5'11" 183 lbs) --- (6'2" 200 lbs) | (PAIR 3)

[GOALTENDING]

(6'2" 197 lbs)
(6'4" 238 lbs)
(6'3" 206 lbs)

you heard it here first, this small skill-only team is gonna get bullied come playoff time

I thought we added vets like joe thornton, wayne simmonds, zach bogosian, nick foligno, jake muzzin, jason spezza, and riley nash to end these silly narratives, no?

Its not about the Size Its about how you use it. (no pun intended)

Other than Simmonds Can you remember a hit anyone else has thrown?

I know we added some toughness to the lineup and we have a number of guys that can step up and play physically. Every single game so far has been a battle so far. Lets hope we see it

PS I have been loving the playoffs so far. BOS/WAS and FLA/TAM series have been great

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May 19, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.

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Quoting: BigDaddyOvech

You've obviously never watched the Leafs then if you haven't seen Hyman go into dirty areas.

not only that, hyman may actually be the best player in the league for entering the dirty areas, wtf is this guy smoking LMAO

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May 19, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.

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Quoting: nbw_r3ap3r

No. Simmonds being their only tough guy, the leafs will be manhandled by any team that has more than one big body tough guy. Take MTL for example: Weber,Edmundson,Anderson,Chiarot,Romanov(Hitter) that's quite a bit more than the one guy. If I was the leafs head coach, I'd put simmonds with 34 reasoning is it's the playoffs guys get dirty and it ends up getting stars hurt. If the Leafs want any hope of making it out of Canada they should have their tough guy up top protecting their stars.

What's he gonna do? Seriously? I don't mean to be condescending, but do you really think the type of player that would do something like that is going to be deterred by the idea of having to get in a fair fight with Simmonds. They're all big boys. If someone out on the ice has it in their head that they're going to go and lay a dirty hit on Matthews, then that's what they're going to do. Simmonds isn't stopping it. If he's lucky he can grab the guy after the fact and maybe get a few licks in, but what does that change?

May 19, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.

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Quoting: BigDaddyOvech

You've obviously never watched the Leafs then if you haven't seen Hyman go into dirty areas.

That's literally what I said....

May 19, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.

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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas

[FORWARDS]

(6'1" 211 lbs) --- (6'3" 220 lbs) --- (6'0" 175 lbs) | (LINE 1)
(6'0" 211 lbs) --- (6'1" 215 lbs) --- (6'0" 196 lbs) | (LINE 2)
(5'10" 185 lbs) --- (6'2" 188 lbs) --- (6'3" 195 lbs) | (LINE 3)
(6'4" 220 lbs) --- (6'3" 216 lbs) --- (6'2" 185 lbs) | (LINE 4)

[DEFENCE]

(6'1" 219 lbs) --- (6'1" 185 lbs) | (PAIR 1)
(6'3" 217 lbs) --- (6'4" 210 lbs) | (PAIR 2)
(5'11" 183 lbs) --- (6'2" 200 lbs) | (PAIR 3)

[GOALTENDING]

(6'2" 197 lbs)
(6'4" 238 lbs)
(6'3" 206 lbs)

you heard it here first, this small skill-only team is gonna get bullied come playoff time

If there is some team-wide brawl that somehow involves the 3rd goalie, I'm watching.

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