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Remaking The C Position

Created by: Sagecoll
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 3, 2021
Published: Jun. 7, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Both Montreal / Nashville are welcome to discuss extensions with Mika / Strome and are expected to do so.

All of the contract estimates are straight from Evolving Wild.

Rangers protect:
1) Eichel
2) Strome
3) Kreider
4) Panarin
5) Buchnevich
6) Chytil
7) Gauthier

1) Trouba
2) Lindgren
3) Hajek

Georgiev

Montreal and Buffalo trades are pre expansion draft.
Nashville and Anaheim trades are post entry draft.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,250,000
2$990,000
3$2,450,000
6$5,450,000
3$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$805,000
1$1,050,000
Trades
1.
2.
NYR
  1. Mysak, Jan
  2. Struble, Jayden [Reserve List]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
MTL
  1. Rykov, Yegor [RFA Rights]
  2. Zibanejad, Mika ($1,350,000 retained)
3.
BUF
  1. Barron, Morgan
  2. Henriksson, Karl
  3. Schneider, Braden
  4. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
  5. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  6. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
4.
NYR
  1. Afanasyev, Egor
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NSH)
Additional Details:
(Conditional 1st, becomes a 2023 1st if Nashville misses playoffs in 21-22)
NSH
  1. Strome, Ryan ($1,500,000 retained)
5.
NYR
  1. Henrique, Adam ($2,725,000 retained)
  2. Jones, Max [RFA Rights]
ANA
  1. Howden, Brett [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (NYR)
  3. 2022 7th round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$72,546,885$0$8,400,000$8,953,115

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 4
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
RFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
-$1,268,750-$1,268,750
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
$805,000$805,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$990,000$990,000
RW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$5,450,000$5,450,000
G
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Rangers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$2,425,000$2,425,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Taxi Squad
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$737,500$737,500 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
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$809,167$809,167 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 1

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Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:12 p.m.
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Your deal is bad
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A bunch of whos(minus Schneider, but still) and two mid to late first round picks for Eichel, what a steal!
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Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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Not even close for Eichel

And this team is screwed cap wise
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Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.
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Not a single roster player in return for Jack Eichel?
A: the Rangers could never afford that
B: Buffalo would not accept that
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Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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I can't see NSH having any interest in that deal
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Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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As a habs fan I have Mixed feeling about this trade, I like that we get a C that can score and put up points but at the same time I got high hopes for Mysak and Struble so Idk what to think of this
Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:28 p.m.
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A bunch of whos(minus Schneider, but still) and two mid to late first round picks for Eichel, what a steal!


Pretty good return for a guy who needs serious spine surgery at 24 and is making 10 mil without sending any Cap back the other way!

But hey, I'd rather Buffalo not take the deal, and have Eichel go ahead with his grievance so they can have a mutual contract termination and we get him for nothing hahahaha.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:31 p.m.
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I can't see NSH having any interest in that deal


Funny stat Ryan Strome has 38 more points than the HIGHEST Predators scorer over the past 2 seasons. The Predators were 21st in scoring in the NHL this season.

If you don't think Poile is desperate to add some offense, I'm not sure what to tell ya.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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As a habs fan I have Mixed feeling about this trade, I like that we get a C that can score and put up points but at the same time I got high hopes for Mysak and Struble so Idk what to think of this


I mean I don't think there's much of a spot for Struble to play, he's behind Guhle, Harris, and Norlinder. So I'm not sure if he'd sign anyway.

I also doubt Danault will sign for anywhere Montreal would actually want to play. He thinks he can make 6-7 mil on the market, Bergevin wants to pay more like 4-5. He's probably walking with how much he's going to get after these playoffs, and I don't think the team feels comfortable putting KK as a top6 C next year.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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Not a single roster player in return for Jack Eichel?
A: the Rangers could never afford that
B: Buffalo would not accept that


I mean A) They just did, I showed you how.
B) I hope they don't, if they try and hold Jack he's going to get a mutual contract termination. And they're not getting a better offer anywhere else for an injury concern like Jack has.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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Pretty good return for a guy who needs serious spine surgery at 24 and is making 10 mil without sending any Cap back the other way!

But hey, I'd rather Buffalo not take the deal, and have Eichel go ahead with his grievance so they can have a mutual contract termination and we get him for nothing hahahaha.

That’s not how it works. He has no medical backing for what he wants. Both team medical staff and the second opinion that he sought agree that the surgery is not necessary. He just wants it for some reason. The medical professionals agreed that the rehabilitation program he’s in is the best course of action, and surgery is over reacting and far too risky. He would never win a grievance on those grounds.
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Funny stat Ryan Strome has 38 more points than the HIGHEST Predators scorer over the past 2 seasons. The Predators were 21st in scoring in the NHL this season.

If you don't think Poile is desperate to add some offense, I'm not sure what to tell ya.


I don't think Poile is desperate to sign another 28+ year old center to a big new contract only for them not to live up to it...
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Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:40 p.m.
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That’s not how it works. He has no medical backing for what he wants. Both team medical staff and the second opinion that he sought agree that the surgery is not necessary. He just wants it for some reason. The medical professionals agreed that the rehabilitation program he’s in is the best course of action, and surgery is over reacting and far too risky. He would never win a grievance on those grounds.


He's literally about to file his grievance, he's already approached the NHLPA. He has a pretty good shot too. But hey, the longer this drags on, the lower the return. Going to be hysterical when Eichel refuses to report publicly saying that he doesn't feel comfortable health-wise going on the ice and the Pegula's are putting his health in danger. And then Adams just gives him away for less than this than trying to deal with the whole situation.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:41 p.m.
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I don't think Poile is desperate to sign another 28+ year old center to a big new contract only for them not to live up to it...


Probably better off with going after a young guy like Kunin then... that worked much better.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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I can't imagine what you're thinking about with that Anaheim trade. We wouldn't deal Jones for Howden and a third because Howden would never see the ice in the NHL. (Zegras, Lundestrom and Groulx are all way ahead of him on performance so far.) Nor is Henrique, with term and retention, worth less than a third by himself. (See the Jeff Carter trade.) After all, you're playing him at #3C yourself.
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That’s not how it works. He has no medical backing for what he wants. Both team medical staff and the second opinion that he sought agree that the surgery is not necessary. He just wants it for some reason. The medical professionals agreed that the rehabilitation program he’s in is the best course of action, and surgery is over reacting and far too risky. He would never win a grievance on those grounds.


Well he wants the surgery because his agent thinks its gonna let him drag his ass right through the next season into nmc country. But you are 100% correct, there has been no medical opinion to corroborate his insisting that the sabres allow him to have this surgery (and i believe pay for it as well). Without the backing of a neutral third party, which he doesnt have, why would the league consider releasing him from his contract? Dont know? Me neither.
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Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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Funny stat Ryan Strome has 38 more points than the HIGHEST Predators scorer over the past 2 seasons. The Predators were 21st in scoring in the NHL this season.

If you don't think Poile is desperate to add some offense, I'm not sure what to tell ya.


Do the Predators have Panarin?
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Jun. 7, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.
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Your deal is bad
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Pretty good return for a guy who needs serious spine surgery at 24 and is making 10 mil without sending any Cap back the other way!

But hey, I'd rather Buffalo not take the deal, and have Eichel go ahead with his grievance so they can have a mutual contract termination and we get him for nothing hahahaha.


Cap does not matter to Buffalo. In fact, they could take on bad contracts to increase the return.

If Buffalo does not want to trade him for this why would they agree to a mutual contract termination? Mutual seems like a pretty important part of a mutual contract termination.
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Jun. 7, 2021 at 5:04 p.m.
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I can't imagine what you're thinking about with that Anaheim trade. We wouldn't deal Jones for Howden and a third because Howden would never see the ice in the NHL. (Zegras, Lundestrom and Groulx are all way ahead of him on performance so far.) Nor is Henrique, with term and retention, worth less than a third by himself. (See the Jeff Carter trade.) After all, you're playing him at #3C yourself.


well 1) That's just false. Howden currently has more value than Jones straight up. Screen-Shot-2021-06-07-at-5-01-09-PM

2) Henrique's value with term and retention is not any better than a 3rd. Without the retention, his value is zero. He passed waivers. So Henrique's value is zero, we've established that. Is 2.7 in cap space worth a 3rd + 7th? I'd say it's in the ballpark. Certainly more useful to have the 3rd with the fact that the Ducks are in a rebuild.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 5:09 p.m.
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Cap does not matter to Buffalo. In fact, they could take on bad contracts to increase the return.

If Buffalo does not want to trade him for this why would they agree to a mutual contract termination? Mutual seems like a pretty important part of a mutual contract termination.


...The salary does matter. Shaving off 10 mil in payments for an ownership group that is going to see its attendance numbers dry up? That matters a good bit.

Really think you're underrating Eichel's power in this situation and the litigation involved. Do you really think the Sabres want to drag this out with lawyers and an arbiter?
Jun. 7, 2021 at 5:11 p.m.
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well 1) That's just false. Howden currently has more value than Jones straight up. Screen-Shot-2021-06-07-at-5-01-09-PM

2) Henrique's value with term and retention is not any better than a 3rd. Without the retention, his value is zero. He passed waivers. So Henrique's value is zero, we've established that. Is 2.7 in cap space worth a 3rd + 7th? I'd say it's in the ballpark. Certainly more useful to have the 3rd with the fact that the Ducks are in a rebuild.


If you think that those figures indicate that Brett Howden has more value than Max Jones, or a higher upside, then I feel sorry for you. Seriously. And that's not even taking into account the fact that Jones will play #3LW for us and Howden would play #2C in San Diego.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 6:54 p.m.
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I wouldn't trade either of the 1st or Afanasyev for a year of Strome.
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Jun. 8, 2021 at 12:51 a.m.
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Not even close for Eichel
That offer gets beat by about half the league
Jun. 8, 2021 at 12:54 a.m.
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I mean A) They just did, I showed you how.
B) I hope they don't, if they try and hold Jack he's going to get a mutual contract termination. And they're not getting a better offer anywhere else for an injury concern like Jack has.


Why would the Sabres WANT tot terminate his contract & lose him for nothing?
That’s just bananas dude
ZERO chance that happens
Jun. 8, 2021 at 12:57 a.m.
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Cap does not matter to Buffalo. In fact, they could take on bad contracts to increase the return.

If Buffalo does not want to trade him for this why would they agree to a mutual contract termination? Mutual seems like a pretty important part of a mutual contract termination.


@Sagecoll CLEARLY has no idea what “mutual” means
 
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