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Created by: Lightman13

Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 15, 2021

Published: Jun. 15, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I figure this gives us more of what the team needs. A stop gap center who can score in hertl and a center with speed for fiala and boldy. This keeps the development of rossi in mind, he gets a year to get into shape and up to speed, he gets his nhl experience without being pushed into a top 6 role or anything and potentially look into buying out parise after the season.

Seattle protection would be 7-3-1 with the hertl deal likely happening after expansion draft. Also this leaves cap space for the following offseasons new deals for sturm and kahkonnen. Hertl might be an option depending on dollars and how he meshes.

I originally had the hertl deal as greenway and a 2nd, b it upped it to a 1st and added rask. The value might be a bit off with the retention, but they are rebuilding and i assume both a young top 6 wing and a 1st would suit their long term needs better. With rask and retention it eats up another 2m or so in cap space. Which is why I upped from a 2nd to a 1st.

Thoughts?

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Eriksson Ek, Joel	8	$4,750,000
Fiala, Kevin	6	$5,750,000
Kaprizov, Kirill	5	$8,750,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Hunt, Brad		2	$750,000
Cole, Ian		2	$2,500,000

Trades

MIN

Schmaltz, Nick

ARI

Dumba, Matt

MIN

SEA

Soucy, Carson

MIN

Hertl, Tomas ($1,500,000 retained)

SJS

Greenway, Jordan
Rask, Victor
2021 1st round pick (PIT)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$70,588,333	$0	$1,647,500	$10,911,667

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Zuccarello, Mats $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 3	Hertl, Tomas $4,125,000$4,125,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1	Kaprizov, Kirill $8,750,000$8,750,000 LW UFA - 5
Boldy, Matthew $880,833$880,833 ($600,000$600K) RW, LW UFA - 2	Schmaltz, Nick $5,850,000$5,850,000 RW, C UFA - 5	Fiala, Kevin $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Foligno, Marcus $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Eriksson Ek, Joel $4,750,000$4,750,000 C UFA - 8	Hartman, Ryan $1,700,000$1,700,000 C, RW UFA - 3
Sturm, Nico $725,000$725,000 C UFA - 1	Rossi, Marco $894,167$894,167 C RFA - 4	Dewar, Connor $825,833$825,833 ($82,500$82K) LW, C RFA - 1
Parise, Zach $750,000$750,000 ($750,000$750K) LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Suter, Ryan $3,650,000$3,650,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Spurgeon, Jared $7,575,000$7,575,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	Talbot, Cam $3,666,667$3,666,667 G UFA - 2
Brodin, Jonas $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Addison, Calen $795,000$795,000 ($132,500$132K) RD RFA - 2	Jones, Hunter $825,833$825,833 ($82,500$82K) G RFA - 2
	Cole, Ian $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Kähkönen, Kaapo $725,000$725,000 G UFA - 1
Hunt, Brad $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Jun. 15, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.

jnowariak

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I’m very concerned with how that back end looks. If we do end up moving Dumba, we will need to sign a top 4 guy. I wonder what McCabe would run?

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.

Wildwinswhen

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Quoting: jnowariak

I’m very concerned with how that back end looks. If we do end up moving Dumba, we will need to sign a top 4 guy. I wonder what McCabe would run?

I'd sign Mermis and Mennell over Hunt. But the back end isn't bad, we've just been spoiled by two top two pairs for years.

How much has Hertl played center this year?

Also, OP, remember that you can move Hunter to the AHL and get another 800k. I don't know why the site keeps putting him in the 2022 roster.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.

wabit

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That's too much to give up for Hertl as a rental. He'd be a guy I'd target at the TDL rather than before the season.

Dvorak is the center I'd want from AZ. I don't think Schmaltz is worth his contract and would pass on that trade.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Is there some reason why you have three goalies on the roster? With that hit and the cap space, you could have a seventh defenseman. Or should we just accept this as a work in progress, TBD?

Jun. 15, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.

wabit

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Quoting: jnowariak

I’m very concerned with how that back end looks. If we do end up moving Dumba, we will need to sign a top 4 guy. I wonder what McCabe would run?

It depends if Soucy is gone too. If it's just Dumba gone I'd be fine with a Brodin/Soucy and Cole?/Addison, or Brodin/Addison and Soucy/Menell pairs.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: wabit

It depends if Soucy is gone too. If it's just Dumba gone I'd be fine with a Brodin/Soucy and Cole?/Addison, or Brodin/Addison and Soucy/Menell pairs.

Agreed, I’m fine with Soucy as Dumba’s replacement but you can’t lose both.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.

jnowariak

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Edited Jun. 15, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.

Quoting: Wildwinswhen

I don’t think the Wild can compete without the high level of defense they’ve had unless they are able to drastically improve the offensive output of the forward lines. And even then I’d be skeptical of the potential.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.

Wildwinswhen

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Is there some reason why you have three goalies on the roster? With that hit and the cap space, you could have a seventh defenseman. Or should we just accept this as a work in progress, TBD?

It's a problem with the site. They keep putting Hunter Jones in the 2022 NHL roster when he's clearly going to be in the AHL. It's an easy one to miss.

Jun. 15, 2021 at 1:54 p.m.

kallenpj

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It wouldn’t be wise to buy out Parise next year… you only gain $1.5M, 0.6M, 0.6M of cap space the last 3 years because his actual salary drops to 2M, 1M, 1M. This is the last year where our cap would benefit from the buyout … but only for the one year.

Jun. 15, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.

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Lightman13

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Quoting: wabit

Quoting: jnowariak

Agreed, I’m fine with Soucy as Dumba’s replacement but you can’t lose both.

In that case I would make a deal with Seattle to leave greenway exposed and then keep soucy. It would probably make more sense overall too.

quote=OldNYIfan;2421694]Is there some reason why you have three goalies on the roster? With that hit and the cap space, you could have a seventh defenseman. Or should we just accept this as a work in progress, TBD?[/quote]

Didn’t notice it keeping him there

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.

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Quoting: Lightman13

I do like Dvorak better but I think he’s a better shooter than schmaltz and wanted someone with more speed to match fiala better. Hertl being a better finisher I thought would account for it better.

In that case I would make a deal with Seattle to leave greenway exposed and then keep soucy. It would probably make more sense overall too.

quote=OldNYIfan;2421694]Is there some reason why you have three goalies on the roster? With that hit and the cap space, you could have a seventh defenseman. Or should we just accept this as a work in progress, TBD?

I don’t think keeping Soucy is as simple as exposing Greenway, regardless of whether Greenway is still on the Wild at expansion time. My biggest gripe with this AGM is that the OP traded for 2 centers. I think a better allocation of resources would be to trade for one and sign one in UFA, as I think the market will still be slightly depressed at the middle.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.

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Quoting: jnowariak

That’s me “raises hand” I made this one! Lol It would probably make more sense to go after Dvorak and then try to sign someone in fa. Just not sure who we could go after. Dana hot or rnh would be like ek versions. So I was thinking someone with a better scoring touch in hertl.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.

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Quoting: Lightman13

I’m working on one with UFAs now. Should be up soon. Be forewarned, I’m keeping Dumba.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 2:46 p.m.

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Quoting: Lightman13

Yeah signing a FA center only makes sense if there's a good FA center that you can get on a reasonable deal. Which is pretty much impossible with a weak FA center market. Danault is basically Ek with less goals, and he's older/more expensive, so he's effectively redundant on our roster. RNH is going to be looking for a lot of money, most likely, but he's not particularly good at anything. Not worth the money he'll get.

I think you were spot on to ignore those guys in FA. That said, I like the Dumba for Schmaltz deal, always will. I think it makes too much sense not to happen. I'm not sure you've offered enough for Hertl, but I'm also not sure if he's the right target either. He'll be 28 early next season, and a UFA next summer. It kind of seems like we'll have to overpay for his services to keep him around, and he'll be 29+ moving forward. I'm not sure it's wise to keep committing to guys like that. Kind of the same issue as with RNH this year.

Jun. 15, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.

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Lightman13

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Quoting: Caerii

See I wanted to have 1 year of a top6 c so that rossi could have some development time hoping he’d be ready to jump into the top 6 after his rookie season. I wasn’t necessarily expecting to keep hertl, afterwards unless rossi isn’t working and hertl meshes well.

Jun. 15, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.

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Caerii

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Quoting: Lightman13

Fair enough, I think it's a good strategy, but in that case, I WOULD go after a cheap FA center like Stepan or Backes, rather than trading Greenway+1st for it.

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Jun. 15, 2021 at 3:35 p.m.

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Lightman13

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Quoting: Caerii

Fair enough, I think it's a good strategy, but in that case, I WOULD go after a cheap FA center like Stepan or Backes, rather than trading Greenway+1st for it.

That’s fair. The wild would probably be better off going either of them as cheap fillers and keeping greenway while buying out rask.

Jun. 16, 2021 at 4:50 a.m.

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Quoting: Wildwinswhen

Also, OP, remember that you can move Hunter to the AHL and get another 800k. I don't know why the site keeps putting him in the 2022 roster.

Quoting: OldNYIfan

Is there some reason why you have three goalies on the roster? With that hit and the cap space, you could have a seventh defenseman. Or should we just accept this as a work in progress, TBD?

The reason Hunter Jones is defaulting to being on the roster right now is because he was called up after Iowa's season ended so technically he's on the roster right now. CapFriendly usually waits until at least the end of the playoffs, if not some time after free agency starts to begin making the rosters a bit more realistic by removing all the guys who will be in the AHL. Usually they don't change the Wild's roster until after a half dozen angry tweets by fans to Russo (tagging CapFriendly) where they say his cap numbers are wrong and he corrects them.

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Jun. 16, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.

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@futurehofer @oldnyifan

I should have known that it's because CapFriendly is extremely accurate not because it was a mistake.

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