Toronto and Detroit probably decline

Why on gods green earth would Detroit do that? add in the 2022 1st and its still not even a trade Detroit takes

Petterson is 25 years old. And Legare is a young RW prospect. Close to NHL ready. They fit Detroit’s timeline better than Bertuzzi.

From a Leafs Fan's perspective, no way.

The Leafs could do better than this. DeSmith is a moderately stable AHL goalie IMO.

I also think that Detroit could do MILES better than this in a TB trade. They would for sure pass on that one.

Its not about the timeline as much as it is about the quality of the return. Detroit could do much better.

yes sorry a one year difference between Petterson and Bertuzzi. and a prospect thats at most a low end 3rd liner. Bert had 9 pts in 7 games before being hurt, and almost 50 in 71 last year. a B- prospect and a 5th dman dont equal Bertuzzi at all. try adding the 2022 1st next time and Yzerman considers

No way they get a top 4, 25 year old LHD, with play-off experience on a good team. With 3 solid seasons in a row. Plus 39 for his career. Very good defensively and contributes scoring enough. A “B”, “B+” prospect like Legare(who u obviously have no clue who he is). And a 1st round pick for Bertuzzi’s rights.

Agree to disagree. But fair enough.

There is just no way Pettersson is a 5th D-man. He’s a top 4 on a division winning-playoff team. Pettersson/Marino.

Plus 39 for his career. Was never a minus(-). Just turned 25 years old with play-off experience. Ya, that’s not what GMs in the NHL look for?? Sorry but those D-men just don’t grow on tress.

And Legare is around a top 150 prospect in the NHL.

I have a very good idea who he is actually. My cousin coached him in Pointe Lebel for two years. I have seen him play first hand.

Perhaps think before you speak next time?

My opinions are my own. Thanks for sharing your one sided views on them though. It is very telling.

Pettersson has gotten worse scoring wise the past three seasons, and I would HOPE his +/- is good with Pitt, having a good plus minus means absoutely nothing. Nothing on Pettersson shows me hes better than a different dman the wings can get, like say Dunn. and no, I'd never heard of Legare til today, and after looking at his stats, hes maybe a B- prospect on a good day. Like someone else said, trading Bertuzzi to the Pens in this trade isn't wrong cause its a time table trade, you're right, these guys fit Detroit better with age, its value. Detroit can get way more for a proven player in a bad system

Footnote: you didn't say to me i didn't know who Legare is, but nevertheless I didn't know him

Lol. DeSmith is proven NHL backup or 1B goalie. With a cheap 1.25M contract. 2.62 GAA and .916 SV% for his career. Better than Jack Campbell’s career numbers actually. Lol.

Bertuzzi is coming off an injury too.

He’s not Gretzky. A top LHD, a product and a 5th round pick. For his RFA rights. Ya, thats good value. Maybe u arnt a fan of the players. But he’s not bringing back the one-sided view of his value u think.

That is horrible for Wings.

Pettersson is bottom half defenseman with a bad contract.

Ok. I would guarantee most NHL GMs would be happy to get a top 4 LHD. Only 25 years old. Never a minus(-) in his career. Plus 39 for his career. Play-off experience already and has played on a good competitive team the last 3 seasons and has played well. Long stick, long reach, very good defensively, contributes enough offensively.

Ya, those D-men just grow on trees. And ya, that’s not what NHL GM’s look for or want at all.

That's an embarrassing offer for Bertuzzi

Top 4 is a stretch. If you mean he tops out at a #4…sure. He’s not a top pair or even a number 3. So…🤷🏻‍♂️

His contract is terrible.

Lol. I didn’t know Bertuzzi was Gretzky. Damn. And coming off an injury.

A top 4 LHD, only just turned 25 years old. Never a minus(-) in his career. Plus 39 for his career. Play-off experience already and has played on a good competitive team the last 3 seasons and has played well. Long stick, long reach, very good defensively, contributes enough offensively.

And a “B” “B+” prospect. A right handed shot, RW prospect, that tore up the AHL. A natural goal scorer that has a great shot and close to NHL ready.

I don’t know, a 25 years old, NHL LHD D-man and a “B”, “B+” prospect and a 5th round pick seems like good value to me.

He’s played top 4 for the Pens, a division winning, competing team for the last 2 seasons. Pettersson/Marino. 🤷‍♂️

Ya you've said that about 5 times now. Doesn't change the fact that Yzerman laughs his a** off and hangs up...

The Wings have no incentive to get rid of Bertuzzi, unless they get a sweet deal (see Mantha trade). Why in the f*$! would they accept something like this?

Jeremy Lauzon spent most of the year playing 1st pair for Boston, does not mean he is one.

Petterrson is a 4/5 with a bad contract no matter how you spin it. He and Legare don’t come close to getting you Bertuzxi.

Agree to disagree. But that’s fine. Marino’s numbers all go up when he’s paired with Pettersson. When they had Marino paired with Matheson, Marino’s numbers took a dive too.

Pettersson didn’t play top 4 on the Pens b/c of injury either. And the Pens won the Division. Were better than Boston with Pettersson as a top 4.

On a bad team like Detroit. Ya, he’s for sure a top 6.

Hard pass from Detroit. MP has never shown he can contribute effectively at even the junior level & is a 4-5D. Legare is a RW prospect that would be down the depth chart and a B prospect at best. I’d rather bank on Bertuzzi going forward.

Keep him then. 🤷🏻‍♂️

But you are not getting a young 20 goal wing with grit under team control, for a mediocre d man with a bad contract and a mediocre prospect.

I disagree on the MP take. But fair enough. He’s been a top 4 on a competitive play-off team for the past 3 seasons. On a bad, rebuilding team, like Detroit, He’s forsure a top 4.

Marino numbers all go up when paired with Pettersson. When they paired Marino with Matheson, his numbers and play took a dive too. Petterson is very solid defensively, long stick, long reach. Never a minus in his career. Plus 39 for his career. And still young with more potential.

Do you think it is entirely possible that you may be overvaluing your own assets?