Cap dumps and trades

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Created by: Stevierebz

Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2021

Published: Jun. 19, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Who says no? And if you do, how far off? What would your counter be?

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler	5	$4,600,000
Hronek, Filip	2	$4,600,000
Rasmussen, Michael	2	$1,600,000
Vrána, Jakub	5	$5,600,000
Smith, Givani	2	$900,000
Pearson, Chase	2	$900,000
Lindström, Gustav	2	$900,000
Erne, Adam	1	$1,000,000
Cholowski, Dennis	1	$900,000
Dunn, Vince	2	$3,000,000
Poehling, Ryan	1	$900,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan		3	$3,700,000
Glendening, Luke		2	$1,800,000

Trades

DET

Byron, Paul
Poehling, Ryan [RFA Rights]
2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
2022 2nd round pick (MTL)

MTL

DET

Neal, James
2022 1st round pick (EDM)
2023 2nd round pick (EDM)

EDM

DET

Eriksson, Loui
2022 1st round pick (VAN)

VAN

DET

Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]

STL

2021 3rd round pick (VGK)
2022 3rd round pick (DET)

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $4,250,000
Loui Eriksson: $4,000,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$64,532,223	$0	$2,018,750	$16,967,777

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Vrána, Jakub $5,600,000$5,600,000 LW UFA - 3	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 2	Zadina, Filip $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW UFA - 1	Veleno, Joseph $894,167$894,167 ($318,750$319K) C RFA - 2	Bertuzzi, Tyler $4,600,000$4,600,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Namestnikov, Vladislav $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Rasmussen, Michael $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW, C UFA - 3	Neal, James $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Glendening, Luke $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2	Erne, Adam $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Smith, Givani $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Hronek, Filip $4,600,000$4,600,000 RD RFA - 3	Bernier, Jonathan $3,700,000$3,700,000 G UFA - 2
Dunn, Vince $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3	Greiss, Thomas $3,600,000$3,600,000 G UFA - 1
Cholowski, Dennis $900,000$900,000 LD RFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,700,000$1,700,000 RD UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Poehling, Ryan $900,000$900,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW UFA - 2
Lindström, Gustav $900,000$900,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD RFA - 2
Pánik, Richard $1,375,000$1,375,000 ($250,000$250K$250,000$250K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Pearson, Chase $900,000$900,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 ($2,275,000$2M$2,275,000$2M) LW, RW UFA - 2

Jun. 19, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.

BadBadgers

Canucks

Joined: May 2021

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Canucks decline

Jun. 19, 2021 at 12:28 p.m.

GMs

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DET fans are delusional with their *capdump*

Jun. 19, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.

J67

Jeff

Joined: Jan. 2018

Posts: 112

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Just non sense. Habs will not dump Poehling and two second round picks to unload Byron.... at 3,5M$...

Jun. 19, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.

Shylo_Moxii

Joined: Mar. 2018

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Blues aren't interested in that deal.

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Jun. 19, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.

mokumboi

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Several teams will easily best that Dunn offer.

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Jun. 19, 2021 at 1:30 p.m.

RedWings86

Joined: Dec. 2018

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Quoting: GMs

DET fans are delusional with their *capdump*

While I don’t agree with any of the trades offered, other fans and maybe even you are equally as delusional with similar camp dump trades among the other Bert and Larkin trades.

Neal to the Wings and the Wings give up a pick for him

Bert or Larkin for a journeyman AHLer, a middle or bottom 6 forward, and a late 2nd.

To name a few… And it’s every day.

Jun. 19, 2021 at 1:59 p.m.

RedWing9119

Joined: May 2018

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Quoting: GMs

DET fans are delusional with their *capdump*

Yeah some ones delusional but he's not a Wings fan...PAUL BYRON IS A CAP DUMP. You're just mad because none of the horrible trades you proposed for Mantha (including ones where Byron was the centerpiece of the return) were accepted by Detroit fans.

Jun. 19, 2021 at 2:47 p.m.

Shylo_Moxii

Joined: Mar. 2018

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Quoting: RedWing9119

I mean he is a cap dump, but not worth that much. Sorry. Even being in the middle. That's an overpayment. No one is paying that much to dump 3.5 Million.

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Jun. 19, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.

RedWing9119

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

I mean he is a cap dump, but not worth that much. Sorry. Even being in the middle. That's an overpayment. No one is paying that much to dump 3.5 Million.

Yeah I agree. Just have a problem with a few Montreal fans after Mantha...

Jun. 19, 2021 at 5:15 p.m.

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Shylo_Moxii

Joined: Mar. 2018

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Quoting: RedWing9119

Yeah I agree. Just have a problem with a few Montreal fans after Mantha...

Capfriendly users are mostly biased idiots. That's pretty much what this site is for. Montreal fans and Toronto fans are some of the most biased ones you'll see. So I'm not surprised.

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Jun. 19, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.

#11

GMs

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Quoting: RedWing9119

Still going on Mantha when I (ME) never traded for Mantha. I never wanted Mantha, the only AGM I did related with Mantha was an OS. Paul Byron IS a capdump, but that overpay IS ridiculous

Jun. 19, 2021 at 8:05 p.m.

#12

HypotheticalImpossibility

Joined: Feb. 2018

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Byron's 2 years at $3.4M is probably going to cost two of those assets, not three. That's if Montreal decides to move him. He's looked better in the playoffs, so they might just keep him for another season.
Neal trade value is fine, but a buyout would only cost them a little less than $2M for 4 seasons. That might be more palatable for Edmonton.
Same with the Eriksson trade. Jim Benning has said they won't use their first to move cap, but who knows.
St. Louis will definitely get better offers for Dunn. I don't think Detroit should trade for Dunn right now. Let the Wings be terrible for a few more seasons, develop some of their talent, and gather more top draft picks to fill areas of need.

TLDR: For the most part, I like what you've done here value-wise, but I think the trade targets might not get moved.

Jun. 19, 2021 at 9:28 p.m.

#13

jtuf93

Wings sufferer

Joined: Jun. 2017

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I think Dunn for WSH 2021 1st and another pick would be a better offer

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