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this team with hertl is literally unstoppable

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Team: 2021-22 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2021
Published: Aug. 31, 2021
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Description
deploy the 3rd and 4th lines both as 3rd lines
Free Agent Signings
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2$795,674
2$874,625
Trades
1.
VGK
  1. Hertl, Tomas ($2,625,000 retained)
SJS
  1. Coghlan, Dylan
  2. Dugan, Jack
  3. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
2.
VGK
  1. Stankoven, Logan [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 4th round pick (DAL)
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this was a really dumb acquisition tbh
DAL
  1. Carrier, William
  2. Dadonov, Evgeni
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (VGK)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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23$81,500,000$80,664,564$285,772$545,000$835,436
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Pacioretty, Max
$7,000,000$7,000,000
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Hertl, Tomas
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Stone, Mark
$9,500,000$9,500,000
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Marchessault, Jonathan
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Karlsson, William
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C
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Smith, Reilly
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Krebs, Peyton
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Patrick, Nolan
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Tuch, Alex
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Janmark, Mattias
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Stephenson, Chandler
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Roy, Nicolas
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Theodore, Shea
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Pietrangelo, Alex
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Lehner, Robin
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Martinez, Alec
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Whitecloud, Zach
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Brossoit, Laurent
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McNabb, Brayden
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Hague, Nicolas
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Kolesar, Keegan
$725,000$725,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Korczak, Kaedan
$789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 3
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Howden, Brett
$885,000$885,000
C, LW
UFA - 1

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Aug. 31, 2021 at 9:29 p.m.
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Klara
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Have to think Brisson would HAVE to go back to SJ, being that he is Bordeleau's linemate.
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Aug. 31, 2021 at 9:30 p.m.
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Never in your wildest imagination will Vegas get Hertl without sending Krebs and Tuch back. Vegas will have to overpay to get him.
Aug. 31, 2021 at 9:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Klara
Have to think Brisson would HAVE to go back to SJ, being that he is Bordeleau's linemate.


Brisson is fine but I would really rather have Krebs.
Aug. 31, 2021 at 9:33 p.m.
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Quoting: lilfimpen
Never in your wildest imagination will Vegas get Hertl without sending Krebs and Tuch back. Vegas will have to overpay to get him.


They wouldn't move those two for Eichel. I know you wouldn't want to lose your best player but tone it down with the expectations or he'll definitely walk for free in a year.
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Aug. 31, 2021 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: lilfimpen
Never in your wildest imagination will Vegas get Hertl without sending Krebs and Tuch back. Vegas will have to overpay to get him.


The Knights wouldn't trade Krebs for Eichel. They aren't trading him for Hertl

Lower your expectations a little
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Aug. 31, 2021 at 9:41 p.m.
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Stars counter with Krebs and a 4th for Faksa, Comeau and a 2nd.

Stankoven is one of our most untouchable prospects.
Aug. 31, 2021 at 10:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
The Knights wouldn't trade Krebs for Eichel. They aren't trading him for Hertl

Lower your expectations a little


They wont be getting Hertl then lol. Its not hard. If the shoes dont fit then dont wear them
Aug. 31, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.
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They wont be getting Hertl then lol. Its not hard. If the shoes dont fit then dont wear them


It's common sense. If the Knights won't trade Krebs for Eichel, they aren't trading Krebs for a worse and older center

If that's the price for Hertl, then not many teams would be interested
Aug. 31, 2021 at 11:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
It's common sense. If the Knights won't trade Krebs for Eichel, they aren't trading Krebs for a worse and older center

If that's the price for Hertl, then not many teams would be interested


Quoting: Devil1122
The Knights wouldn't trade Krebs for Eichel. They aren't trading him for Hertl

Lower your expectations a little


the luxury of having a top line center we don’t want to trade and has publicly said he doesn’t want to leave is that if you want him it will cost A LOT! otherwise we keep and resign him! he has said he wants to be a lifer!
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
the luxury of having a top line center we don’t want to trade and has publicly said he doesn’t want to leave is that if you want him it will cost A LOT! otherwise we keep and resign him! he has said he wants to be a lifer!



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Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:02 a.m.
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You said: this team with hertl is literally unstoppable
Just like the goaltending w/ opposing pucks!
Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:05 a.m.
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Kane is gone!
but this is news to me! yikes it’s time to trade him be still he’s not leaving for cheap
Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Kane is gone!
but this is news to me! yikes it’s time to trade him be still he’s not leaving for cheap


Idk if they're allowed to terminate Kane's contract

It looks like Hertl is done in SJ

He's not going to be cheap to acquire but some sharks fans are overvaluing him like crazy
Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:18 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Idk if they're allowed to terminate Kane's contract

It looks like Hertl is done in SJ

He's not going to be cheap to acquire but some sharks fans are overvaluing him like crazy


If Hertl has said "he's done" (big ?-mark) - then he's lost his leverage and so has his agent, and SJ...
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
It's common sense. If the Knights won't trade Krebs for Eichel, they aren't trading Krebs for a worse and older center

If that's the price for Hertl, then not many teams would be interested


Every team should be at that price lol. Name a single player as good as Hertl you can get for that price, it just doesnt exist.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122



That's a twitter account with 32 followers incorrectly portraying the actual article.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:15 a.m.
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Every team should be at that price lol. Name a single player as good as Hertl you can get for that price, it just doesnt exist.


Jack Eichel

Buffalo offered a trade for to Vegas. Krebs, Smith, Hague, 1st for EIchel. Vegas declined

If they're not trading Krebs for Eichel, they're not trading Krebs for Hertl
Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Klara
That's a twitter account with 32 followers incorrectly portraying the actual article.



Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Stars counter with Krebs and a 4th for Faksa, Comeau and a 2nd.

Stankoven is one of our most untouchable prospects.


I don't do the trade either, but let's not act like Faksa, Comeau, and a 2nd are equivalent to Dadonov, Carrier, and a 2nd
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: TheMooterus
I don't do the trade either, but let's not act like Faksa, Comeau, and a 2nd are equivalent to Dadonov, Carrier, and a 2nd


Well no sh*t sherlock.

I was just giving the same impression, Dadonov and Faksa both are almost cap dumps, but not quite yet, Comeau and Carrier are both defensive 4th liners, and Krebs and Stankoven are both top tier prospects to their own respective teams. I never mentioned that the value was the same.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:30 p.m.
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Well no sh*t sherlock.

I was just giving the same impression, Dadonov and Faksa both are almost cap dumps, but not quite yet, Comeau and Carrier are both defensive 4th liners, and Krebs and Stankoven are both top tier prospects to their own respective teams. I never mentioned that the value was the same.


Stankoven has some very nice upside but putting him in the same category as Krebs is a little ambitious. He could surprise everybody and be a top six stud like JRob. He could be a middle six guy with some scoring upside (hopefully we have a coach that knows how to use those by the time he gets here)
Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
Stankoven has some very nice upside but putting him in the same category as Krebs is a little ambitious. He could surprise everybody and be a top six stud like JRob. He could be a middle six guy with some scoring upside (hopefully we have a coach that knows how to use those by the time he gets here)


Except Harley and Bourque I believe that he’d be our best prospect. I never compared him to Krebs on a value note, I compared them on a team value note. Stankoven is one if our only good scoring prospects so I’d imagine they value him highly. Krebs is also very highly valued by his respective team.

I value him as if he was our 1st round pick instead of Johnston, and Johnston as if he was in Stankoven’s spot.
Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.
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We’ll give you Sekera and a third for Dadonov. Eyes off Stankoven. Lol
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.
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Except Harley and Bourque I believe that he’d be our best prospect. I never compared him to Krebs on a value note, I compared them on a team value note. Stankoven is one if our only good scoring prospects so I’d imagine they value him highly. Krebs is also very highly valued by his respective team.

I value him as if he was our 1st round pick instead of Johnston, and Johnston as if he was in Stankoven’s spot.


Give Johnston a chance. Harley and Bourque def have the goods. Neither looked out of place playing professionally. Dell and Damiani are ahead of Bourque on the depth chart so I don’t expect to see him this year
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Sep. 1, 2021 at 12:43 p.m.
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Give Johnston a chance. Harley and Bourque def have the goods. Neither looked out of place playing professionally. Dell and Damiani are ahead of Bourque on the depth chart so I don’t expect to see him this year


No matter how good Bourque is, they should absolutely not play him in the NHL this year, hear me out.

He’s eligible for an entry level slide which pushes his contract for an extra year. Which would mean his contract would expire the same year as Benn, Faksa, Lindell and Suter. It gives us a lot more cap flexibility.
 
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