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Comtois on FIrst Line Trade Marner and Tavares to Florida

Created by: CaillenDraftKings
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 21, 2021
Published: Oct. 21, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Comtois, Maxime
  2. Stolarz, Anthony
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (ANA)
  4. 2022 5th round pick (TOR)
ANA
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. Holl, Justin
  3. Amirov, Rodion
  4. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Fiala, Kevin
  2. Eriksson Ek, Joel
MIN
  1. Tavares, John
  2. Engvall, Pierre
3.
TOR
  1. Paul, Nicholas
OTT
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2024 6th round pick (TOR)
4.
TOR
  1. McNabb, Brayden
  2. 2022 5th round pick (CHI)
VGK
  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
  2. Dermott, Travis
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
TOR
TOR
ANA
TOR
CHI
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$75,525,616$0$400,000$5,974,384
Left WingCenterRight Wing
ANA
Comtois, Maxime
$2,037,500
LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
$5,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000
C
UFA - 8
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
OTT
Paul, Nicholas
$1,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
ANA
Stolarz, Anthony
$950,000
G
UFA - 2
VGK
McNabb, Brayden
$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Amadio, Michael
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2

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Oct. 21 at 3:50 p.m.
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Anaheim responds with Matthews 50% retained for Groulx
Oct. 21 at 3:56 p.m.
#2
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No. Wild don't even consider that. Just don't.
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Oct. 21 at 3:58 p.m.
#3
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U cant trade tavares he has a no move clause.
Oct. 21 at 3:58 p.m.
#4
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So how do Marner and Tavares get to Florida?
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Oct. 21 at 3:59 p.m.
#5
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Just stop with these horrible wild proposal today..Minnesota isn't trading Kevin fiala or Joel Eriksson ek for john t whose not wanted . Also trash in pierre! Sure I bet you are getting a laugh
Oct. 21 at 4:06 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 21 at 4:49 p.m.
I don't understand why the Ducks would do this. The 2nd and the 1st have similar value. Let's say the Ducks pick is between 36 and 42 in maybe the best draft since 2015 and the Leafs pick is in the 20's in 2023 (not a bad draft class at all, but not quite as good as 2022 imo), then, with good drafting, you could get players of similar value. And giving up Comtois, Stolarz and a 5th for a RD that wouldn't clear waivers (assuming Manson is still in Anaheim when this trade happens), a goalie who might not even be needed next season and a good prospect that isn't NHL ready is not something I think the Ducks would do.
Oct. 21 at 4:12 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Anaheim responds with Matthews 50% retained for Groulx


yeah cause thats even close to comparable lmao
Oct. 21 at 4:37 p.m.
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TOR
Paul, Nicholas
OTT
Kerfoot, Alexander
2024 6th round pick (TOR)


NO GOD! PLEASE NO!!! NOOOOOOOOOO gif
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Oct. 21 at 4:41 p.m.
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Ottawa now offers you Chris Tierney for Auston Matthews.

Go on.

Take it sarcasm
Oct. 21 at 4:46 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Anaheim responds with Matthews 50% retained for Groulx


...... Comtois is ur 1C? Nope he is scratched lmao
Oct. 21 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
...... Comtois is ur 1C? Nope he is scratched lmao


He isn't even a C😂

And it's something the Ducks do sometimes. He hasn't had the best start to the season, but it's only 4 games.
Oct. 21 at 5:07 p.m.
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Quoting: TZ11
He isn't even a C😂

And it's something the Ducks do sometimes. He hasn't had the best start to the season, but it's only 4 games.


Factual
Oct. 21 at 5:23 p.m.
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Quoting: TZ11
He isn't even a C😂

And it's something the Ducks do sometimes. He hasn't had the best start to the season, but it's only 4 games.

Quoting: GeneralLandro
Factual


So, he's not even a C. Amirov is good enough to warrent a ok trade here, not a Matthews for whoever.
Oct. 21 at 5:28 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
So, he's not even a C. Amirov is good enough to warrent a ok trade here, not a Matthews for whoever.


I thought it was a bad trade so I used a little bit of sarcasm to state it

Next time I’ll just say nah, that ain’t it
Oct. 21 at 6:27 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
I thought it was a bad trade so I used a little bit of sarcasm to state it

Next time I’ll just say nah, that ain’t it


I mean normally the sarcasm is just a reverse trade not something of way more value, like if someone traded Dahlin for let's say Zacha, I'd respond with Hughes for Eakin or something.
Oct. 22 at 10:39 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Anaheim responds with Matthews 50% retained for Groulx


I hope ur saying the trade is a fleecing from the ducks side, cuz thats what it is. Amirov has better potential than comtois, mrazek>>>stolarz, plus we are giving up holl and a first for a 2nd and 5th lmfao
Oct. 22 at 10:41 a.m.
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Quoting: TZ11
I don't understand why the Ducks would do this. The 2nd and the 1st have similar value. Let's say the Ducks pick is between 36 and 42 in maybe the best draft since 2015 and the Leafs pick is in the 20's in 2023 (not a bad draft class at all, but not quite as good as 2022 imo), then, with good drafting, you could get players of similar value. And giving up Comtois, Stolarz and a 5th for a RD that wouldn't clear waivers (assuming Manson is still in Anaheim when this trade happens), a goalie who might not even be needed next season and a good prospect that isn't NHL ready is not something I think the Ducks would do.


maybe because amirov has better potential than comtois, holl can be reflipped for a 2nd, maybe more due to his right shot and good contract, mrazek is way better than stolarz and a first, no matter the year, is better than a 2nd.
Oct. 22 at 10:42 a.m.
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Quoting: TZ11
I don't understand why the Ducks would do this. The 2nd and the 1st have similar value. Let's say the Ducks pick is between 36 and 42 in maybe the best draft since 2015 and the Leafs pick is in the 20's in 2023 (not a bad draft class at all, but not quite as good as 2022 imo), then, with good drafting, you could get players of similar value. And giving up Comtois, Stolarz and a 5th for a RD that wouldn't clear waivers (assuming Manson is still in Anaheim when this trade happens), a goalie who might not even be needed next season and a good prospect that isn't NHL ready is not something I think the Ducks would do.


but yeah, its a weird trade for both sides but horrific for the leafs
Oct. 22 at 10:50 a.m.
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Comtois had a really good year last year, they arent just dumping that. you need to overpay or dont come to the table. whats going back isnt enough to get that done.

Minny has no room for tavares. nor do i think tavares would waive to go there. its Toronto or bust for him.

Nick paul for kerfoot makes sense. i actually think its a bad deal for toronto to do.

the vegas deal i think theyd rather mcnabb because hes a really big pk guy for them. i think vegas would rather add reliable vets vs kind of unproven guys.
Oct. 22 at 11:20 a.m.
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Edited Oct. 22 at 4:20 p.m.
Quoting: q_birm_8
maybe because amirov has better potential than comtois, holl can be reflipped for a 2nd, maybe more due to his right shot and good contract, mrazek is way better than stolarz and a first, no matter the year, is better than a 2nd.


Yes, Romirov has more potential. But there is no guarantee that he'll ever be as good as his potential suggests.

Holl is not worth a second and you say that as if you could just always flip someone. If no one were willing to trade for Holl, what would the Ducks do then? (I do think someone would trade for him, but it wouldn't be a 2nd.)

Yes, Mrazek is better, but he has had some injuries the past few years and he is injured again. It's more important for Gibson to have a backup that is healthy and plays on a regular basis than to have a backup that's better than the previous backup, but might get injured again.
Oct. 24 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: TZ11
Yes, Romirov has more potential. But there is no guarantee that he'll ever be as good as his potential suggests.

Holl is not worth a second and you say that as if you could just always flip someone. If no one were willing to trade for Holl, what would the Ducks do then? (I do think someone would trade for him, but it wouldn't be a 2nd.)

Yes, Mrazek is better, but he has had some injuries the past few years and he is injured again. It's more important for Gibson to have a backup that is healthy and plays on a regular basis than to have a backup that's better than the previous backup, but might get injured again.


Holl is maybe worth a 2nd because of his contract, but teams will overvalue him due to his RH shot, team controlled cost friendly contract, and very good defensive results (mainly because of muzzin)
 
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