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The Suuuub and Zuuub connection

Created by: OwnGoal
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 28, 2021
Published: Oct. 28, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Team Explanation
Helps Ottawa’s right side D problem.
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Subban, P.K.
Additional Details:
No retention
NJD
  1. Mete, Victor
  2. Sanford, Zachary
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (OTT)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
Ottawa takes the whole contract
Buyouts
  • Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
  • Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nicholas Paul: $600,750 (45%)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,641,507$0$4,507,500$4,858,493
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Tkachuk, Brady
$8,330,674
LW, C
UFA - 7
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Tierney, Chris
$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Batherson, Drake
$4,975,000
RW
UFA - 6
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Brown, Connor
$3,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Paul, Nicholas
$749,250
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Sabourin, Scott
$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Stützle, Tim
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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Gambrell, Dylan
$1,100,000
C
RFA - 1
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Formenton, Alex
$747,500
LW
RFA - 1
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Norris, Joshua
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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Ennis, Tyler
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Shaw, Logan
$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
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Zub, Artem
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Forsberg, Anton
$900,000
G
UFA - 1
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Brännström, Erik
$863,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Subban, P.K.
$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Gustavsson, Filip
$787,500
G
RFA - 2
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Holden, Nick
$1,700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Brown, Joshua
$1,200,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Del Zotto, Michael
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Murray, Matt
$6,250,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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White, Colin
$4,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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Watson, Austin
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Pinto, Shane
$925,000
C
RFA - 2

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Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.
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Too bad they aren’t paired together. That’d be cool.
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:17 p.m.
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Subban has been terrible the last while. Don’t even think he’s worth a 3rd round pick
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
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Ugh gross,
Why would sens do that when we have such great D almost NHL ready.

Also, did you forget who the owner of the Sens is, you think he is paying that Salary?
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.
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Not sure how Subban solves any RHD problem. Certainly the Sens aren't giving up nearly that much for Subban.
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.
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That's a trade that could have been made 2 years ago when Subban was being traded from Nashville.

But not today.
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Not sure how Subban solves any RHD problem. Certainly the Sens aren't giving up nearly that much for Subban.


Quoting: palhal
Not sure how Subban solves any RHD problem. Certainly the Sens aren't giving up nearly that much for Subban.


Quoting: palhal
Not sure how Subban solves any RHD problem. Certainly the Sens aren't giving up nearly that much for Subban.

It’s a 2nd and a 3rd the other 2 are depth pieces I threw in to make way for more of the sens young guns. I believe he suffers from being a decent player on an awful deal if he was making closer to 5-6mil i doubt he would be scrutinized quite as much
Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:47 p.m.
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Quoting: NDoody
Ugh gross,
Why would sens do that when we have such great D almost NHL ready.

Also, did you forget who the owner of the Sens is, you think he is paying that Salary?

I mean he’s only owed 6mil in salary this season not a huge deal. Also he’s just a placeholder. Dropping Mete and Sanford opens a hole for Brannstrom and Kelly. Hopefully they find a way to dump Zaitzev to allow JBD or Thomson up.
Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.
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Quoting: OwnGoal
I mean he’s only owed 6mil in salary this season not a huge deal. Also he’s just a placeholder. Dropping Mete and Sanford opens a hole for Brannstrom and Kelly. Hopefully they find a way to dump Zaitzev to allow JBD or Thomson up.


Still Wouldn't take him, no need.
Also I wouldn't dump Zaitsev, at his cap hit he is good for guys like Brnastrom and Sanderson coming on to the team, and he is fairly liked in the lockerroom. Holden is kinda growing on me, but I would dump, Brown, Del Zotto, and even Mette before Zaitsev
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 4:57 p.m.
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Devils accept! no take backs
Oct. 28, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.
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Quoting: OwnGoal
I mean he’s only owed 6mil in salary this season not a huge deal. Also he’s just a placeholder. Dropping Mete and Sanford opens a hole for Brannstrom and Kelly. Hopefully they find a way to dump Zaitzev to allow JBD or Thomson up.


He's actually only owed 2m this season, the 6m bonus has already been paid.

This is a big overpay for Subban, but the real money on his contract is very low, that's why he was a popular topic for a double retention trade when the season was starting.
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: NDoody
Ugh gross,
Why would sens do that when we have such great D almost NHL ready.

Also, did you forget who the owner of the Sens is, you think he is paying that Salary?


Subban makes only 2 M$ in salary this season, his bonus was already paid

I'd make the trade. Replace Mete by Josh Brown though

A 2nd and a 3rd is already a good return for Subban

The goal would be to extend him. But that's IF he would be identified as a good veteran stop gap and leader for young players.
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 5:15 p.m.
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As a devils fan, I would love this. Not a good trade for Ottawa though
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Oct. 28, 2021 at 5:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Subban makes only 2 M$ in salary this season, his bonus was already paid

I'd make the trade. Replace Mete by Josh Brown though

A 2nd and a 3rd is already a good return for Subban

The goal would be to extend him. But that's IF he would be identified as a good veteran stop gap and leader for young players.

I agree I only included mete because his play style is identical to brannstrom so the hole he would leave could easily be filled. I think as far as defensive trade options go Subban is a low risk trade worst case you just let him walk July 1st.
 
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