SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Tkachuk

Created by: Will
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 13, 2021
Published: Nov. 13, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Assumes Calgary and Tkachuk can't come to a long-term extension
1 year until UFA
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
8$7,000,000
6$10,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
2$3,000,000
3$6,000,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
TDL
EDM
    Paul, Nicholas @ 50% retained
    2.
    OTT
    1. 2022 3rd round pick (MIN)
    Additional Details:
    TDL
    MIN
      Tierney, Chris @ 50% retained
      3.
      OTT
      1. 2022 4th round pick (CAR)
      Additional Details:
      TDL
      CAR
        Sanford, Zachary
        4.
        OTT
        1. 2023 5th round pick (STL)
        Additional Details:
        TCL
        STL
          Brown, Joshua
          5.
          OTT
          1. 2022 5th round pick (CGY)
          Additional Details:
          TDL
          CGY
            Holden, Nick
            6.
            OTT
            1. Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
            Additional Details:
            Draft day trade
            CGY
            1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
            2. Brown, Connor
            3. Greig, Ridly
            4. 2022 1st round pick (OTT)
            5. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
            Additional Details:
            3-5 overall pick
            2023 1st is top 10 protected
            7.
            OTT
            1. 2022 1st round pick (WPG)
            2. 2022 5th round pick (WPG)
            Additional Details:
            Draft day trade
            WPG
            1. 2022 2nd round pick (OTT)
            2. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
            3. 2022 3rd round pick (MIN)
            Additional Details:
            Ottawa moves back into the 1st round, Winnipeg acquires more picks
            Buyouts
            DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
            2022
            Logo of the WPG
            Logo of the EDM
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the BOS
            Logo of the VAN
            Logo of the CAR
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the CGY
            Logo of the WPG
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the NYI
            2023
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the STL
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the NSH
            2024
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
            23$82,500,000$71,644,047$0$3,965,000$10,855,953
            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $8,205,714$8,205,714
            LW
            UFA - 6
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $7,000,000$7,000,000
            C
            UFA - 8
            $10,000,000$10,000,000
            RW
            UFA - 8
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
            C
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
            C
            RFA - 1
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $4,975,000$4,975,000
            RW, LW
            UFA - 5
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $894,167$894,167
            LW
            RFA - 3
            $6,000,000$6,000,000
            RW, C
            UFA - 3
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $1,200,000$1,200,000
            C, RW
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $1,250,000$1,250,000
            LW
            RFA
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $818,333$818,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
            LW
            RFA - 1
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $1,000,000$1,000,000
            LW, RW
            UFA
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $1,500,000$1,500,000
            RW, LW
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $762,500$762,500
            LW
            RFA - 2
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $8,000,000$8,000,000
            LD
            UFA - 6
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
            RD
            RFA - 1
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $787,500$787,500
            G
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $925,000$925,000
            LD
            UFA - 2
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $2,500,000$2,500,000
            RD
            UFA - 1
            $3,000,000$3,000,000
            G
            UFA
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $750,000$750,000
            LD
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
            RD
            RFA - 2
            Logo of the Ottawa Senators
            $4,500,000$4,500,000
            RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2

            Embed Code

            • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
            • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

            Text-Embed

            Click to Highlight
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 4:57 p.m.
            #1
            Vegan Commie Hipster
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Oct. 2020
            Posts: 7,888
            Likes: 3,256
            Jarvy Giroux White

            Each player born in a different decade

            Is there a current line like that in the NHL rn?
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.
            #2
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Jun. 2021
            Posts: 3,618
            Likes: 3,044
            CGY would have to at the very least consider that. The Sens 2022 pick looking like it could be up there...

            I could see Nick Paul being a target for the canes
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 5:04 p.m.
            #3
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Jun. 2019
            Posts: 38,859
            Likes: 19,903
            Quoting: Canesfan21_
            CGY would have to at the very least consider that. The Sens 2022 pick looking like it could be up there...

            I could see Nick Paul being a target for the canes


            Scratch tickets are just scratch tickets. Any convo around M. Tkachuk starts with Stutzle
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 5:09 p.m.
            #4
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Jan. 2018
            Posts: 430
            Likes: 96
            not a fan of either team and i think Cal gets a great deal here at the draft. A top 5 pick, 2 good prospects another 1st the following year and connor Brown, Ottawa will not finish near the bottom with this team but need to address their defense making that 1st probably 15-20ish

            also good values on the players, conservative, if you dont get flammed by the capfriendly community you did a good job LOL
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 5:11 p.m.
            #5
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Oct. 2020
            Posts: 10,742
            Likes: 8,308
            Quoting: Canesfan21_
            CGY would have to at the very least consider that. The Sens 2022 pick looking like it could be up there...

            I could see Nick Paul being a target for the canes


            Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
            Scratch tickets are just scratch tickets. Any convo around M. Tkachuk starts with Stutzle


            I agree with it being a draft day trade they have to consider it. Depending where Ottawa lands in the draft I think would determine whether Stuetzle would have to be a main piece.
            Maybe if the pick is around 10 swap out Ridley for Stuetzle, top 5 this draft is supposed to be very good. Agreed though with the scratch ticket comment since Calgary wants to compete right now.
            Have to say the offer is at least significant to warrant conversation unlike alot of trades people propose.
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 5:25 p.m.
            #6
            mokumboi
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Apr. 2019
            Posts: 29,594
            Likes: 11,456
            Quoting: Radu47
            Jarvy Giroux White

            Each player born in a different decade

            Is there a current line like that in the NHL rn?



            Not currently, but the Blues did have Bozak-Neighbours-Clifford in one game and Bozak-Barbashev-Neighbors in another.
            Radu47 liked this.
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 5:28 p.m.
            #7
            Vegan Commie Hipster
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Oct. 2020
            Posts: 7,888
            Likes: 3,256
            Quoting: mokumboi
            Not currently, but the Blues did have Bozak-Neighbours-Clifford in one game and Bozak-Barbashev-Neighbors in another.


            Ooh and if they claimed chara in future on waivers*

            All 4 decades on one unit

            Just jks NYI will never waive | noone should claim him
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 5:57 p.m.
            #8
            Serf
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Jun. 2016
            Posts: 3,417
            Likes: 1,461
            OTT
            Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
            Additional Details:
            Draft day trade
            CGY
            Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
            Brown, Connor
            Greig, Ridly
            2022 1st round pick (OTT)
            2023 1st round pick (OTT)
            Additional Details:
            3-5 overall pick
            2023 1st is top 10 protected


            Not giving up Greig and two 1st’s for Tkachuk, let alone add two more good pieces to that. The Sens also don’t need a 2nd Tkachuk to negotiate a contract with.
            athrin and Xspyrit liked this.
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.
            #9
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Jun. 2020
            Posts: 4,471
            Likes: 3,177
            We need Tierney why?
            Nov. 13, 2021 at 7:03 p.m.
            #10
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: May 2019
            Posts: 41,137
            Likes: 18,715
            Quoting: Radu47
            Jarvy Giroux White

            Each player born in a different decade

            Is there a current line like that in the NHL rn?


            Thornton (1970s), Hornqvist (1980s), Vatrano (1990s)

            (and when they play with Knight...got 2000's covered too)
            Nov. 15, 2021 at 12:06 p.m.
            #11
            Avatar of the user
            Joined: Jul. 2016
            Posts: 10,513
            Likes: 3,727
            Edited Nov. 15, 2021 at 12:19 p.m.
            1) damn, that'd be pretty disappointing if Nick Paul @ 50% retained would only bring back a LATE 2022 2nd round pick. It would mean he wouldn't be that costly to extend so the Sens would be pretty stupid to NOT extend him.

            2) Really doubt Joshua Brown is worth anything at all. Maybe a 7th at the deadline

            3) I would be literally pissed if the Sens were paying that to acquire Matthew Tkachuk. I know (and my dog knows too), his brother plays for the Sens but this is an OUTRAGEOUS overpayment and here are the reasons :

            - Connor Brown is very valuable in his own right for half the price. Sure, he doesn't have the same name recognition and he is almost 4 years older but damnit

            Matthew Tkachuk has 75 EVP in 140 GP since 2019-20, Connor Brown has 68 EVP in 138 GP. Tkachuk starts most of his shifts in the offensive zone (60/40) while Brown is heavily used as a defensive forward and starts in the D zone (65/35)

            http://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20192020&seasonTo=20212022&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evPoints&page=1&pageSize=50

            Tkachuk is the biggest profile player but he will start making 9.0+ M$ next year... Connor Brown has a 3.6 AAV and is owed 4.0 M$ next season. He won't cost an arm and a leg to extend

            No chance I would add the other pieces proposed in this ACGM to upgrade Brown to Tkachuk

            - The 2022 pick will return one of Shane Wright, Ivan Miroshnichenko, Brad Lambert, Matthew Savoie, Simon Nemec, Joakim Kemell, David Jiricek, Conor Geekie, etc...


            Just the fact that there is more pieces added is laughable... This package is worth AT least 5 first round picks, including a top-5 one in a great draft


            Quoting: sensibleguy
            Not giving up Greig and two 1st’s for Tkachuk, let alone add two more good pieces to that. The Sens also don’t need a 2nd Tkachuk to negotiate a contract with.


            This proposal is delusional at best

            A top-5 pick in this draft is already an incredible piece that the Sens probably wouldn't even give up for a guy who will ask for a 9M$+ contract as soon as next season...

            On top of that, you add :

            - another first round pick next year
            - a guy who makes half the AAV but very valuable in his own right
            - a prospect who was a first round pick and who has seen his stock rise since. He is a blue chip multi-impact top-9 player
            - another prospect who was a mid first round pick and has had that value ever since.

            This is pure robbery

            Can't even think about one player who returned as much in a long time. Even Jack Eichel, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
            sensibleguy liked this.
             
            Reply
            To create a post please Login or Register
            Question:
            Options:
            Add Option
            Submit Poll