Modelling a Jakob Chychrun trade off of the one for OEL

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Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2021

Published: Dec. 15, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/oliver-ekman-larsson

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/mats-zuccarello

Trades

ARI

Bailey, Josh
Clutterbuck, Cal
Hickey, Thomas
2022 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
2024 7th round pick (NYI)

Additional Details:

No Lottery Protection

NYI

ARI

The trade involving Chychrun and Keller is based on the trade involving OEL and Garland between Arizona and Vancouver from last July.

OTT

The trade involving Kessel is based on the trade involving Zuccarello between the Rangers and the Stars from February, 2019.

ARI

2022 1st round pick (CAR)

MTL

2022 1st round pick (MTL)

ARI

2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
2023 3rd round pick (NYR)

NYR

Kessel, Phil ($3,400,000 retained)

Additional Details:

The 2022 2nd round pick becomes a 2022 1st round pick if ...

1. The New York Rangers advance to the third round of the 2022 NHL playoffs ...

and ...

2. Phil Kessel plays in 50% of the games in the first two rounds.

The 2023 3rd round pick becomes a 2023 1st round pick if ...

the New York Rangers win 2 Stanley Cups at any point between the time of this trade and the 2023 NHL Draft

Buyouts

Michael Grabner: $1,258,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $990,000 (12%)
Darcy Kuemper: $1,000,000 (22.22%)
Phil Kessel: $3,400,000 (50%)

Buried

Andrew Ladd: $4,375,000 ($5,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$66,890,284	$196,951	$2,232,500	$14,609,716

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Crouse, Lawson $1,533,333$1,533,333 LW, RW UFA - 1	Schmaltz, Nick $5,850,000$5,850,000 RW, C UFA - 5	Bailey, Josh $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW, C UFA - 3
Larsson, Johan $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Hayton, Barrett $894,167$894,167 ($2,150,000$2M) C, LW RFA - 1	Boyd, Travis $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Galchenyuk, Alex $750,000$750,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1	Dzingel, Ryan $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Fischer, Christian $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Roussel, Antoine $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Beagle, Jay $3,000,000$3,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1	Eriksson, Loui $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Strålman, Anton $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Vejmelka, Karel $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) G UFA - 1
Hickey, Thomas $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 1	Lyubushkin, Ilya $1,350,000$1,350,000 RD UFA - 1	Wedgewood, Scott $825,000$825,000 G UFA - 1
Capobianco, Kyle $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1	Mayo, Dysin $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Clutterbuck, Cal $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW UFA - 1	Timmins, Conor $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 2
Jaskin, Dmitrij $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Hutton, Carter $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Dineen, Cam $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.

Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

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Rangers would be a good fit for Kessel but I'm certainly not paying more than a 2nd for him if that.

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:27 p.m.

jet11567

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Arizona gives up there 2 best players for a first and second and a 7th and 3 bad contracts you gotta be kidding me why would Arizona do this

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Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:27 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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Quoting: jet11567

Arizona gives up there 2 best players for a first and second and a 7th and 3 bad contracts you gotta be kidding me why would Arizona do this

Yeah this is brutal

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:28 p.m.

TheAlien

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You can't compare OEL and Chychrun

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.

Boltsbeathabs

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Yeah this is brutal

Arizona would have to be getting 2 more 1's for it to just be awful

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.

Jrader17

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This is a joke post right?

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.

TheHebrewHammer

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If that is all it takes for the Islanders. It would have been done already. Coyotes would never offer that.

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Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.

sensonfire

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sensonfire

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Quoting: jet11567

Arizona gives up there 2 best players for a first and second and a 7th and 3 bad contracts you gotta be kidding me why would Arizona do this

1. Money

2. Trade is based on the OEL/Conor Garland trade with Vancouver from last July.

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:32 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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OEL was a cap dump, either model it off of Hamilton to Calgary and add from there or model it off of Seth Jones.

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Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.

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jet11567

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Quoting: sensonfire

1. Money

2. Trade is based on the OEL/Conor Garland trade with Vancouver from last July.

Chychruns deal is a steal at 4.5 for the next 3 I could see Keller being moved cause of money but not chychrun he would yield a very nice return

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Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:34 p.m.

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Barilko14

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Quoting: sensonfire

1. Money

2. Trade is based on the OEL/Conor Garland trade with Vancouver from last July.

Aside from the Yotes connection, what does Chychrun have to do with OEL?

Why would their values be comparable?

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:34 p.m.

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TheBoyDuddus

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Chychrun >>> OEL

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:34 p.m.

#13

Caerii

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Not a very useful comparison

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:38 p.m.

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sensonfire

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sensonfire

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Quoting: Barilko14

Aside from the Yotes connection, what does Chychrun have to do with OEL?

Why would their values be comparable?

1. Both Chychrun and OEL play a ton of minutes, have about the same point production this season and are Top 4 left-handed LDs

2. Chychrun's contract would be comparable to Conor Garland's while Keller's would be comparable to OEL's.

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:39 p.m.

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sensonfire

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Quoting: Caerii

Not a very useful comparison

What would be?

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:39 p.m.

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mv21227

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Arizona is not giving up their two best players for one 1st and scraps

Try again

Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:41 p.m.

#17

sensonfire

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Quoting: mv21227

Arizona is not giving up their two best players for one 1st and scraps

Try again

How about no?

o_O

Dec. 15, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.

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Barilko14

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Edited Dec. 15, 2021 at 8:52 p.m.

Quoting: sensonfire

What would be?

Quoting: sensonfire

You're reaching here. Chychrun is way younger, way cheaper, and a way higher ceiling. There is no reason to use the OEL trade for a comparison.

On top of all that OEL very publicly only had two places he'd accept a trade too, which hurts any value he could have had.

Very poor comparable.

If Chychrun is actually available, considering his contract, and how he looked last season, every team in the league is reaching out to Ari and at least finding out what the cost would be.

Dec. 16, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.

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SlevinKalevra

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Good contract, prime Chych and bad contract, past prime OEL are not the same thing

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