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chychrun idea when healthy

Created by: zk97
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2022
Published: Jan. 5, 2022
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Description
be constructive
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Guhle, Kaiden
  2. Hoffman, Mike
  3. Kulak, Brett
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
  5. 2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
  6. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
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hoffman + kulak + 3rd = tuch
guhle = krebs
1st + 3rd = chychrun being less valued than eichel
2.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
idk where
3.
MTL
  1. 2022 4th round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
idk where
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2022
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 5, 2022 at 4:11 p.m.
1st and Guhle is a good start. The rest is of no interest to Zona.

And no Hoffman + Kulak + 3rd does not even come close to = Tuch

Krebs > Guhle as well
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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I would think Arizona would want more, and I would think right now, Chychrun would have more value than Eichel. He makes less, wasn’t injured, didn’t request a trade, doesn’t have a bad attitude etc.
Jan. 5, 2022 at 1:01 p.m.
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I think there a lot of flaws with your thought process and I don't think that the Eichel trade is as good an analog as people think it is. First, I don't think the Coyotes would be interested in a Tuch like comparable. First, Buffalo was very concerned with getting someone who wanted to be in Buffalo.. Tuch being from Western NY and willing to be in Buffalo was a big deal... AZ doesn't have that concern. Second, Buffalo is further along in the rebuild and has many more piece in place (Dahlin, Cozens, Power, Quinn) where adding a young vet like Tuch makes sense. AZ is going down to the studs.. someone 25 years old is too old.. that player would be 30 when the rebuild is ending and out of their prime

Second, Chychrun is cost controlled at 4.6 rather than Eichels 10. The conditions on the picks coming from Vegas would not have been there if Buffalo had been willing to retain.. where as with Chychrun his cap number is so low there's no such concern.

Third, Eichel had demanded a trade which forced Buffalo's hand. Chychrun has not requested a trade.. and to be honest the Coyotes are listening they aren't even shopping him. Coyotes have no incentive to move Chychrun unless they have their doors blown off.

I don't MTL is as a fit given their lack of a absolute blue chip prospects that they would be willing to move and the knowledge that any first rounders would likely protected.
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 1:01 p.m.
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Hoffman kulak and a 3rd does not equal Tuch.
Tuch is a legit 2nd line young fwd signed long term as a great cap hit. Kulak is a pending UFA, Hoffman is a 33 year old fwd who is only good on the PP with his shot, he doesnt bring much else besides it. And a 3rd rounder is low value pick in comparison

Suzuki is closer to the Tuch value than a bunch of parts
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 1:06 p.m.
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Hoffman + kulak + 3rd = tuch might be the worst logic I’ve ever seen.
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.
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People forgetting that habs 1st 2023 is greater than vegas 1st 2023. 15-20 spots better
Jan. 5, 2022 at 1:30 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Hoffman kulak and a 3rd does not equal Tuch.
Tuch is a legit 2nd line young fwd signed long term as a great cap hit. Kulak is a pending UFA, Hoffman is a 33 year old fwd who is only good on the PP with his shot, he doesnt bring much else besides it. And a 3rd rounder is low value pick in comparison

Suzuki is closer to the Tuch value than a bunch of parts


Suzuki closer to Tuch as value ? I know u don't like the habs but this is BS
Jan. 5, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.
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Suzuki closer to Tuch as value ? I know u don't like the habs but this is BS


who said I dont like the Habs, just bc I dont like what the fans do for trades over valuing their players to the avs has 0 to do with my feelings about the team

You think Hoffman is closer value to tuch? Bc you think that then there is no point in continuing this conversation. And No I dont think Tuch is worth more than Suzuki that is not what I was saying
Jan. 5, 2022 at 1:38 p.m.
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who said I dont like the Habs, just bc I dont like what the fans do for trades over valuing their players to the avs has 0 to do with my feelings about the team

You think Hoffman is closer value to tuch? Bc you think that then there is no point in continuing this conversation.


Nope i clearly don't think Hoffman have a value near the little toe as Tuch. But Suzuki > Tuch anyday.
Jan. 5, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.
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Nope i clearly don't think Hoffman have a value near the little toe as Tuch. But Suzuki > Tuch anyday.


That is not what I am saying, this isnt a Tuch is better than this player conversation, its purely value set in the Eichel trade framework...good grief.
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