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Gambling on Lafreniere

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Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 6, 2022
Published: Feb. 8, 2022
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
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That’s a huge gamble on Laf.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:09 p.m.
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Rangers aren't trading laf no matter what! A top pick isn't getting traded for boeser, whose regressed and restricted free agent costing more than 7mil. Jt Miller alone won't cost LAf. Even with both, Rangers aren't trading a top pick selected barely two years ago
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.
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Rangers aren't trading laf no matter what! A top pick isn't getting traded for boeser, whose regressed and restricted free agent costing more than 7mil. Jt Miller alone won't cost LAf. Even with both, Rangers aren't trading a top pick selected barely two years ago


Miller and Boeser give the Rangers a good chance at winning the cup this year and next year.

It has yet to be seen what Lafreniere will be but it doesn't look like he is reaching his potential on the Rangers and I don't see another team offering more than this for him.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
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Miller and Boeser give the Rangers a good chance at winning the cup this year and next year.

It has yet to be seen what Lafreniere will be but it doesn't look like he is reaching his potential on the Rangers and I don't see another team offering more than this for him.


He's doing fine. Don't you have problems of your own to worry about? You're lucky people are going harder after Petey given how he's regressed.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:25 p.m.
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He's doing fine. Don't you have problems of your own to worry about? You're lucky people are going harder after Petey given how he's regressed.


Pettersson has a track record of playing well on the Canucks and put up 66 points in his 20 year old season. Even so I'll give you I don't think his value is as much right now as it was at the end of last season.

However, Lafreniere has never played well on the Rangers a couple more seasons like this and he'll only be worth a mid round pick.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:27 p.m.
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Pettersson has a track record of playing well on the Canucks and put up 66 points in his 20 year old season. Even so I'll give you I don't think his value is as much right now as it was at the end of last season.

However, Lafreniere has never played well on the Rangers a couple more seasons like this and he'll only be worth a mid round pick.


Rangers should have moved Kakko last offseason for Eichel Sabres would have accepted too. I’m glad he was an untouchable Tuch already has more points than him.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.
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Rangers should have moved Kakko last offseason for Eichel Sabres would have accepted too. I’m glad he was an untouchable Tuch already has more points than him.


Okay but are both Kakko and Lafreniere busts when they were so highly touted before the draft or is there a problem with the Rangers development of these players. Could add Kravtsov to that list too.

Buffalo is not known for good player development but it's hard to imagine they would do worse than the Rangers.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:35 p.m.
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Pettersson has a track record of playing well on the Canucks and put up 66 points in his 20 year old season. Even so I'll give you I don't think his value is as much right now as it was at the end of last season.

However, Lafreniere has never played well on the Rangers a couple more seasons like this and he'll only be worth a mid round pick.


Bro, Pete has 1 more goal than him and Laf doesn't get PP time. Settle down.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:36 p.m.
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Okay but are both Kakko and Lafreniere busts when they were so highly touted before the draft or is there a problem with the Rangers development of these players. Could add Kravtsov to that list too.

Buffalo is not known for good player development but it's hard to imagine they would do worse than the Rangers.

Sabres player development has been good the past two years. Krebs, Peterka and Quinn are over a point per game in the AHL. Cozens is playing at a 41 point pace. Rangers should trade one of Lafrenière or Kakko for an established NHL player before they lose their value, but I doubt they will.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:39 p.m.
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That’s brutal for the Canucks. Laf has been pretty lousy…underlying statistics have been awful and the production isn’t there
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:43 p.m.
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Sabres player development has been good the past two years. Krebs, Peterka and Quinn are over a point per game in the AHL. Cozens is playing at a 41 point pace. Rangers should trade one of Lafrenière or Kakko for an established NHL player before they lose their value, but I doubt they will.


Krebs was already getting that production on the Golden Knight's. I don't think you can say that's the Sabres player development...

Like I said Sabres player development gets a pass but it doesn't take a genius to develop a top pick/talent.
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:44 p.m.
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Miller and Boeser give the Rangers a good chance at winning the cup this year and next year.

It has yet to be seen what Lafreniere will be but it doesn't look like he is reaching his potential on the Rangers and I don't see another team offering more than this for him.


Teams don't trade players like LAF this quick
Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.
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Teams don't trade players like LAF this quick


I mean its not like they are trading him for nothing. They are getting a haul here.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 12:53 p.m.
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Lafreniere hasn't shown that he is worth either one of those players and certainly not both of them.
Gambling is one thing but throwing capital away is something else entirely.
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Feb. 8, 2022 at 7:06 p.m.
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That's not happening from VAN.
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Jun. 24, 2022 at 4:11 p.m.
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Jun. 24, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.
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What makes you bet on Lafreniere? I am just a beginner at ice hockey betting, and sometimes it’s hard for me to understand the general logic of the bet here.


I don't actually bet, but I too have a hard time rationalizing a gamble of this magnitude
Jun. 24, 2022 at 4:20 p.m.
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Quoting: GabrielJ
Rangers aren't trading laf no matter what! A top pick isn't getting traded for boeser, whose regressed and restricted free agent costing more than 7mil. Jt Miller alone won't cost LAf. Even with both, Rangers aren't trading a top pick selected barely two years ago


Boeser just had a down year, he isn't on a projected path of regression

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Okay but are both Kakko and Lafreniere busts when they were so highly touted before the draft or is there a problem with the Rangers development of these players. Could add Kravtsov to that list too.

Buffalo is not known for good player development but it's hard to imagine they would do worse than the Rangers.


Not sure I understand the take you're giving on Pettersson. Yeah, he only had 60 something points, but he missed training camp and was coming off a crippling wrist injury. He was playing exceptionally well in the latter half of the season, no reason to doubt why he can't be a reliable 1C going forward
Mar. 27, 2023 at 8:45 a.m.
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Hey Leafs_and_Sens_Fan, interesting trade proposal you've got there! It definitely seems like a huge gamble on Lafreniere, but I guess that's the nature of trades sometimes. I'm not too familiar with the Vancouver Canucks' situation with their salary cap and all the different buyouts and retained salary transactions, but it looks like you've put a lot of thought into it. By the way, have you checked out the 슬롯사이트 순위 (slot site rankings)? It might be a fun way to pass the time while waiting for the NHL trade deadline. It's also a cool way to make some money online.
Aug. 4, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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