Miller to NYR Trade Rumour

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Created by: hockeybadger

Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 9, 2022

Published: Feb. 9, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Rumours come from Frank Seravalli's "Trade Deadline War Room – Metropolitan Division Objectives" piece at Daily Faceoff. Please note that it obviously won't be all these assets going one way. Just wanted to note all the piece that Frank said are potentially in play.

If the Rangers want to make this deal done and a 2022 1st, Schneider +++ didn't get it done (as per Satiar Shah at Sportsnet 650), I wonder if a Kakko and Schneider offer moves the needle.

Anyways, looks like we are in for a spicy next few weeks!

Trades

VAN

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$71,985,659	$648,780	$5,600,000	$9,514,341

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 5	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW UFA - 1
Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($200,000$200K) LW, RW RFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Kakko, Kaapo $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) RW RFA - 1
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW NTC UFA - 3	Dickinson, Jason $2,650,000$2,650,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3
Highmore, Matthew $725,000$725,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Lammikko, Juho $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Motte, Tyler $1,225,000$1,225,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 6	Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 5
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Georgiev, Alexandar $2,425,000$2,425,000 G UFA - 1
Hunt, Brad $800,000$800,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Schenn, Luke $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Dowling, Justin $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2		Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Burroughs, Kyle $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2		Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Halák, Jaroslav $1,500,000$1,500,000 ($1,500,000$2M) G NMC UFA - 1		Sutter, Brandon $1,125,000$1,125,000 RW, C UFA - 1
		Keeper, Brady $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2
		Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 4

Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:47 p.m.

SamTheGoalie

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Miller should stay boeser should go

Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.

Masonh618

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Seravalli is insane then. (Yes, I know he means that it wouldn't be everyone in that package)

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.

Datsyukian

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Holy overpay

Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.

hockeybadger

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Quoting: SamTheGoalie

Miller should stay boeser should go

Boeser won't get you this haul though

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.

hockeybadger

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Quoting: Datsyukian

Holy overpay

Did you read the description or just jump to the comments after seeing the trade?

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.

Canucks33

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Kakko + Schneider and we build a statue

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.

palhal

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Makes no sense for Rangers cap wise.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:57 p.m.

dlt_hfu2847whsba

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No chance the Rangers trade Kakko or Schneider for Miller.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.

hockeybadger

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Quoting: MauriceRichard1028

No chance the Rangers trade Kakko or Schneider for Miller.

If you choose to ignore all facts and intensifying rumours then sure.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.

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Quoting: palhal

Makes no sense for Rangers cap wise.

Rangers have 7M in cap space and have Strome and Lundqvist's dead money coming off the books next year, they can easily do it cap wise.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.

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WhereArtTLuongo

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Us Canucks fans

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

If you choose to ignore all facts and intensifying rumours then sure.

What are the facts? I'm only seeing rumors.

There is absolutely no reason the Rangers would trade their top prospects/young players for a top 6 winger who is signed for one more year. Would probably go down as one of the worst short sighted trades of all time.

I guarantee at the trade deadline Kakko and Schneider will still be Rangers. And Miller most likely will not be a Ranger (doesn't make sense for our cap situation anyway).

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

Rangers have 7M in cap space and have Strome and Lundqvist's dead money coming off the books next year, they can easily do it cap wise.

They need Strome, so they'll be resigning him. And we still have Shattenkirk money next year.

Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:07 p.m.

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Quoting: MauriceRichard1028

Literally read this. They have huge interest in him and these are the assets available.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/frank-seravalli-nhl-trade-deadline-war-room-metropolitan-division-objectives/

Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.

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palhal

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Quoting: telmax

Rangers have 7M in cap space and have Strome and Lundqvist's dead money coming off the books next year, they can easily do it cap wise.

Thanks fo proving my point. Rangers certainly don't want to carry over any bonus money into next season with next years near flat cap. Nice that 4.5m and Lundqvist 1.1m dead cap come off the books, but the Rangers have inked Zibs and Fox to 14m raises alone.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.

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Rangers would have to throw in Fox too

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.

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Quoting: RDRausch93

Rangers would have to throw in Fox too

And Shesterkin

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

Literally read this. They have huge interest in him and these are the assets available.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/frank-seravalli-nhl-trade-deadline-war-room-metropolitan-division-objectives/

I read it, and I do trust Seravalli most of the time. But this is clearly intel mixed with speculation. "Pieces potentially in play" and a subsequent list of 6 players/picks is not a "fact" about what is available lol.

I have no doubt the Rangers are interested and intrigued with Miller. Doesn't mean it'll happen.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.

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Lol, this is wild. Vancouver is gassing themselves up.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:15 p.m.

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Quoting: saysthemachine

Lol, this is wild. Vancouver is gassing themselves up.

A decade of heartache will do that to you

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.

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Quoting: palhal

So it's really impossible to sign three bottom six forwards, bottom pairing defenseman, a back up goalie for $7M??? (Miller at 50%)

Even at his full cap that's still $4,375,000 for those players.

The only RFAs are Kravstov (who's probably gone), Hajek (probably not getting a big raise), Georgiev (most likely traded) and Sammy Blais (probably not a big raise if any either).

It doesn't take an economics degree to realize that you can make this easily work.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.

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Quoting: saysthemachine

Lol, this is wild. Vancouver is gassing themselves up.

I am straight up just sharing what Frank said, idk how this is gassing up. This is what is being discussed at the NHL level, not just Vancouver

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 3:26 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

I am straight up just sharing what Frank said, idk how this is gassing up. This is what is being discussed at the NHL level, not just Vancouver

Ignore them man just let them believe what they want to

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

I am straight up just sharing what Frank said, idk how this is gassing up. This is what is being discussed at the NHL level, not just Vancouver

Believing information put out there for clicks, likely fed to him from Van (NYR have their own mouthpieces that are not Frank) = gassing themselves up.

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Feb. 9, 2022 at 4:20 p.m.

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palhal

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Quoting: telmax

Doesn't take an economics degree to know how to figure the NHL salary cap. But you refuse to recognize how bonuses are paid. Try making salary cap a for 22/23 Rangers. I noticed you think in your BS response to me, you suddenly changed Miller to 50% retention. Nice.

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