The pacioretty trade is a very good comparable for a toffoli trade. https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/max-pacioretty.
Pacioretty was on the final year of his contract when he was traded. If toffoli would be traded now, he still has 2 and a half years left on his contract of 4.25 mil.
Pacioretty in his final year in montreal had 37 points in 64 games, the year before 67 points in 81 games. Toffoli in his final year in LA had 34 points in 54 games, the year before that he had 34 points in 82 games. He then got traded to Vancouver for Tyler Madden (a B prospect), 2nd round pick, Tim Schaller (cap dump). Since joining Vancouver he had 10 points in 10 games, and 4 points in 7 playoff games. He then signed in montreal for less than pacioretty signed in Vegas, while also having the better season. His 1st year in montreal he had 44 points in 52 games (while also having a 44 goal pace), then in the playoffs he had 14 points in 22 games. Now this season he has 26 points in 35 games. Therefore having more points in the past 2 seasons than pacioretty had in montreal his last 2 seasons. Now, I have 2 reasons why he's worth it. Pacioretty acquired a package of a 1st round caliber prospect, 2nd, and a player with no value. He had less production than toffoli at the time. He was on the last year of his contract and was gonna demand a very high raise. Toffoli has 2 and a half years left on one of the best contracts I the league qt 4.25mil. All that makes it worth that toffoli could get a 1st, 1st round caliber prospect, 2nd / 2nd round caliber prospect. Another reason, in the 1st toffoli trade he was traded for a 2nd round caliber prospect, and a 2nd. That was when toffoli was the 40 point player. Now, that toffoli I'd the 75 point player, AND he has ×5 more term on his contract left than last time, ypu could at least double the haul for what LA got. Madden ×2 = 1st round caliber prospect, 2nd round pick ×2 = 1st round pick. Then you could add a 2nd /2nd round caliber prospect.
Now, why would pelletier make sense? Suzuki in his ohl career had 328 points in 251 games, pelltier in his qmjhl career had 275 points in 210 games, if you want to say Suzuki played 41 more games, but if you calculate how much points pelletier would've had in 251 games, it would also be 328 points. For clarification most people consider ohl the toughest league to play in, more tougher than the whl or qmjhl. They both played 4 seasons there, but after the 4 seasons Suzuki went straight to the nhl, and picked up 41 points in 71 games. While pelletier went to the ahl, and scored 36 points in 36 games. Suzuki went to the nhl, rather than the ahl making him the more qualified player, pelltier had to go to the ahl. And, no. Habs didn't need him at center. He started the season on the 4th line, so it was his production that made him play in the NHL. Those are 2 very good proofs to show toffoli could fetch pelltier, 1st, 2nd /2nd round caliber prospect.
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The only reason I haven't blocked this troll is that I am so looking forward to seeing all of the comments after the TDL when he sees what his players actually return!
I know!! Hahaha I have tried to drag him into a deal that when the deadline is over and he's not even close he will delete his account, not taking it though cause he knows how wildly bias and in the clouds he is.
The wild faith that you have in the value of Habs players and you don't trust that I would delete an account on a free website that means nothing... come on.
The wild faith that you have in the value of Habs players and you don't trust that I would delete an account on a free website that means nothing... come on.
There's no chance that happens under regular circumstances, the Canadian division sucked, Toffoli wouldn't of had the season he had if it was a normal season.
I wouldn't trade Pelletier for Toffoli as a 1 for one deal. He's young, still cheap and has a comparable if not higher ceiling than Toffoli. Not to mention the intangibles. Offensively creative, high energy and doesn't cheat defensively. I think there is a deal to be had and your evaluation is kinda close....ish, but I believe Pelletier is a non starter.
its gearing up to be a Buyer's market, and one of the biggest buyers already took their shot: VGK. iMO, MTL should start selling now and not wait til the deadline, where they might be left hodling the bag.
If Montreal were committed to a full rebuild, I can see Pelletier being included, but he won't be - he's one of CGY's few good prospects.
A first and a player are probably enough to get it done, but CGY would do a 1st, Dube or Valimaki, and a decent prospect.
Becuase MTL need defence (and to get younger), I say it becomes a 1st, Valimaki, and a prospect (but not Pelletier or Wolfe)
If Montreal were committed to a full rebuild, I can see Pelletier being included, but he won't be - he's one of CGY's few good prospects.
A first and a player are probably enough to get it done, but CGY would do a 1st, Dube or Valimaki, and a decent prospect.
Becuase MTL need defence (and to get younger), I say it becomes a 1st, Valimaki, and a prospect (but not Pelletier or Wolfe)
Hahahahaha I have a veerrrry suspicious feeling my account will be just fine!
Hoping his next trick is to give insight on why Chiarot is the best defenceman to hit the trade block since 2000 (Guy is guuuuud!), or how Lehkonen will bring back twice as much as Jack Eichel (Lehkonen has 19 more points than Eichel this year!!!).
Hot take: afox23 and ducharmethedominator are actually Jeff Gorton's burner accounts.
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