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Created by: GloveSideHockey

Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 18, 2022

Published: Feb. 18, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

NYR

Chiarot, Ben
Drouin, Jonathan ($1,250,000 retained)
2022 5th round pick (MTL)

MTL

NYR

DeBrusk, Jake

BOS

Hunt, Dryden
2023 3rd round pick (NYR)

Buyouts

Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Anthony Deangelo: $383,334
Brad Richards: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$79,328,969	$0	$7,950,000	$2,171,031

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 6	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 5	Strome, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 2
DeBrusk, Jake $3,675,000$3,675,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Drouin, Jonathan $4,250,000$4,250,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Kakko, Kaapo $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) RW RFA - 1
Gauthier, Julien $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 1	Rooney, Kevin $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Reaves, Ryan $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 1
	Barron, Morgan $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW RFA - 2
	McKegg, Greg $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindgren, Ryan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD RFA - 3	Fox, Adam $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	Shesterkin, Igor $5,666,667$5,666,667 G UFA - 4
Miller, K'Andre $925,000$925,000 ($350,000$350K) LD RFA - 2	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Georgiev, Alexandar $2,425,000$2,425,000 G UFA - 1
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3
Jones, Zachary $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Nemeth, Patrik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3
	Blais, Samuel $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:23 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Joined: Oct. 2017

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"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.

GloveSideHockey

Thread Starter

Nyr_55

Joined: Oct. 2017

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Quoting: justaBoss

"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.

Lol typical habs fans eh

Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.

aecliptic

Joined: Jun. 2019

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Geez, what is going on here? The New York Underperformers?

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.

Schood1c

Joined: Apr. 2021

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How good is hunt? I haven't watched many rangers games so idk but trade seems decently fair.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.

GloveSideHockey

Thread Starter

Nyr_55

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Quoting: aecliptic

Geez, what is going on here? The New York Underperformers?

5 on 5 performance, depth scoring (specifically c), and reliable depth d. If you were a realist and watched our teams games, you’d understand that those have been our needs all year.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.

GloveSideHockey

Thread Starter

Nyr_55

Joined: Oct. 2017

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Quoting: Schood1c

How good is hunt? I haven't watched many rangers games so idk but trade seems decently fair.

Quick and gritty. Similar to debrusk but less offensive upside. He’d fit in well with you guys especially if you look for scoring depth elsewhere at the TDL.

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.

Campabee

Joined: Nov. 2018

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Quoting: Christiansilvestri

Lol typical habs fans eh

Quoting: justaBoss

"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.

Problem is not the value its that the package does not meet the positional needs of Montreal. We would rather add for something we need than trade players for something we don't need which is exactly what's going on here. Until Rangers fans understand that Montreal is too deep at LD and RW to consider trading for those positions, there will be a disconnect among the fan bases.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.

Snowball

Joined: Jan. 2022

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Last thing BOS needs is another 25+ year old bottom 6 forward, while it’s probably fair value I’d rather just keep JD, bruins have the money to resign him anyways.

I’d be willing to talk Kravtsov to BOS for JD and pick

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:48 p.m.

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

Joined: Jul. 2015

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Rangers have no desire or the cap for a 4.25m Drouin this year or next.

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:52 p.m.

#10

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

Joined: Jan. 2017

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Quoting: justaBoss

"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.

As a Habs fan, take out Robertson and the 5th and we still accept.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:55 p.m.

#11

DucharmetheDOMinator

v5 Minnesota GM

Joined: Jan. 2022

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I'll break this up:
Chiarot gets 1st + 3rd
Drouin would get Berard + Kravtsov + 4th

Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:55 p.m.

#12

DucharmetheDOMinator

v5 Minnesota GM

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Drouin shouldn't play center

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.

#13

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Joined: Jan. 2020

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

I'll break this up:
Chiarot gets 1st + 3rd
Drouin would get Berard + Kravtsov + 4th

Chiarot gets what? He's worth a 2nd max.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 4:58 p.m.

#14

DucharmetheDOMinator

v5 Minnesota GM

Joined: Jan. 2022

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Chiarot gets what? He's worth a 2nd max.

I said he GETS a 1st + 3rd, because he WILL get that, (BTW leafs are frontrunners to give that to the habs for him!)
All Habs fans would agree he's WORTH 2nd + 4th, but he will get 1st + 3rd, no matter what fans say.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.

#15

Gofnut999

Joined: Jan. 2017

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Boston passes on that. Plenty of options they’d be interested in. That’s not it.

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.

#16

Burnout

Joined: Jan. 2022

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No idea what Drouin's value is, but it looks close enough.

Quoting: Christiansilvestri

5 on 5 performance, depth scoring (specifically c), and reliable depth d. If you were a realist and watched our teams games, you’d understand that those have been our needs all year.

...I'm not sure how adding DeBrusk and Drouin (as a center?) help with 5 on 5 performance or depth scoring at C, but ok.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 5:46 p.m.

#17

aecliptic

Joined: Jun. 2019

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Quoting: Christiansilvestri

5 on 5 performance, depth scoring (specifically c), and reliable depth d. If you were a realist and watched our teams games, you’d understand that those have been our needs all year.

Im very much a realist. However these are absolutey not the players I would be targeting. Andrew Copp and Calle Jarnkrok are who we should be targeting for the 3rd line.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.

#18

aecliptic

Joined: Jun. 2019

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@Christiansilvestri this is my TDL playoff push squad. Giroux (or Pavelski) would be a luxury. For an inexpensive top 6 guy, with reluctance, I wouldnt be opposed to Kessel. Guy has playoff and SC pedigree.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/edit/3044248

Feb. 18, 2022 at 6:12 p.m.

#19

GloveSideHockey

Thread Starter

Nyr_55

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

I'll break this up:
Chiarot gets 1st + 3rd
Drouin would get Berard + Kravtsov + 4th

Lol

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 6:14 p.m.

#20

GloveSideHockey

Thread Starter

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Quoting: Burnout

No idea what Drouin's value is, but it looks close enough.
Drouins offensive upside. We can’t score 5 v 5. Having him and it doesn’t have to be a centre position, would help with that. He performs in the playoffs as well.

...I'm not sure how adding DeBrusk and Drouin (as a center?) help with 5 on 5 performance or depth scoring at C, but ok.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 6:15 p.m.

#21

GloveSideHockey

Thread Starter

Nyr_55

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Quoting: aecliptic

Christiansilvestri this is my TDL playoff push squad. Giroux (or Pavelski) would be a luxury. For an inexpensive top 6 guy, with reluctance, I wouldnt be opposed to Kessel. Guy has playoff and SC pedigree.
Kessels not a bad idea but I think the bidding war would be too high for giroux. I’ll have a look tho.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/edit/3044248

Feb. 18, 2022 at 6:17 p.m.

#22

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

Joined: Mar. 2017

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Quoting: Burnout

No idea what Drouin's value is, but it looks close enough.

...I'm not sure how adding DeBrusk and Drouin (as a center?) help with 5 on 5 performance or depth scoring at C, but ok.

To be fair, 16 of Drouin's 20 points are even strength. He is only a C in a pinch however.

Feb. 18, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.

#23

aecliptic

Joined: Jun. 2019

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Quoting: Christiansilvestri

Its worth kicking tires on Giroux and Pavelski, but I have a hard stance to avoid any and all bidding wars. Its unnecessary.

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 7:47 p.m.

#24

jasonliq

Joined: May 2018

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Quoting: justaBoss

"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.

this is a perfect representation of habs fans

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Feb. 18, 2022 at 10:02 p.m.

#25

Fox_Czar_Cup

Joined: Apr. 2016

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

I'll break this up:
Chiarot gets 1st + 3rd
Drouin would get Berard + Kravtsov + 4th

Tons of futures for average rental and a major dump.
We are all blushing for you.

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