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Created by: Leafboy101
Team: 2021-22 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 28, 2022
Published: Feb. 28, 2022
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Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Moore, John
  2. Wagner, Chris
  3. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
2.
SJS
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Lysell, Fabian
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (BOS)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,029,841$1,956,507$1,050,000$470,159
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
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UFA - 1
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,687,500$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$125,000$125K)
G
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 28, 2022 at 5:11 p.m.
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Bruins shouldn't trade Lysell for anyone other than a young NHL roster player (such as Chychrun) whom they would have control over. Makes no sense for them to trade him when their pipeline is almost empty.
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Feb. 28, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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Harsh overpays. At least on Arizona. Wagners caphit, when buried, is only like 900k. Moores is like 1.25 mil. Most you would need to send is a 3rd.
Feb. 28, 2022 at 5:21 p.m.
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No to both. Not trading Lysell for a rental. That Zona trade …c’mon…buried those 2 cost 2m in cap space. Using a 1st to move them getting nothing in return is insanity.
Feb. 28, 2022 at 5:27 p.m.
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I’m a sharks fan and that’s a bit for Hertl
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Feb. 28, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.
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Both of these deals don’t help the Bruins. Especially that Coyotes deal. You really would wanna give up a 1st when you have two very manageable contracts that will just get buried in the minors just so you can get Galchenyuk?
Feb. 28, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Chopper02
Bruins shouldn't trade Lysell for anyone other than a young NHL roster player (such as Chychrun) whom they would have control over. Makes no sense for them to trade him when their pipeline is almost empty.


you are over rating a low 1st round pick who's only results are in the CHL.
His chance of being a player who even plays 300 games is roughly 40%.

Having said that, I think this is a lot to pay on a rental.
Hertl himself is a hard guy to figure out. He's gonna want 7 years that puts him to 35. Maybe 8 on same team.
I don't know I'd want to be roped into that. He's got a 5 year range I feel comfortable with on a new deal.
So that would be the first part of it. Otherwise just getting a rental isn't really helping BOS. If you are going to pay, get term otherwise you'll just be right back where you are next year.
Which is why teams don't pay an arm and a leg anymore for rentals
Feb. 28, 2022 at 5:30 p.m.
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Lysell is pretty comparable to brannstrom in terms of value at the time of that trade.

How on earth does mark stone get brannstrom and a second, when he was twice the player hertl was, and had an extension discussed, and Hertl gets this?

This board has just entirely forgotten what deadline deals look like. It’s not hard guys! Find an old TSN article recapping a trade deadline. Deals don’t look like this.
Feb. 28, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.
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you just trade a 1st for alex galchenyuk? dudes gonna be in the KHL next year
Feb. 28, 2022 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
you are over rating a low 1st round pick who's only results are in the CHL.
His chance of being a player who even plays 300 games is roughly 40%.

Having said that, I think this is a lot to pay on a rental.
Hertl himself is a hard guy to figure out. He's gonna want 7 years that puts him to 35. Maybe 8 on same team.
I don't know I'd want to be roped into that. He's got a 5 year range I feel comfortable with on a new deal.
So that would be the first part of it. Otherwise just getting a rental isn't really helping BOS. If you are going to pay, get term otherwise you'll just be right back where you are next year.
Which is why teams don't pay an arm and a leg anymore for rentals


Quoting: pharrow
you are over rating a low 1st round pick who's only results are in the CHL.
His chance of being a player who even plays 300 games is roughly 40%.

Having said that, I think this is a lot to pay on a rental.
Hertl himself is a hard guy to figure out. He's gonna want 7 years that puts him to 35. Maybe 8 on same team.
I don't know I'd want to be roped into that. He's got a 5 year range I feel comfortable with on a new deal.
So that would be the first part of it. Otherwise just getting a rental isn't really helping BOS. If you are going to pay, get term otherwise you'll just be right back where you are next year.
Which is why teams don't pay an arm and a leg anymore for rentals


I dont think so. He's showing incredible growth in all parts of his game and even in the SHL he was showing how relentless he can be on both ends of the ice. He didn't always get results, but the team he was on wasn't very good. He's one of the better offensive prospects Boston has had in some time.
Feb. 28, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.
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Lysell is pretty comparable to brannstrom in terms of value at the time of that trade.

How on earth does mark stone get brannstrom and a second, when he was twice the player hertl was, and had an extension discussed, and Hertl gets this?

This board has just entirely forgotten what deadline deals look like. It’s not hard guys! Find an old TSN article recapping a trade deadline. Deals don’t look like this.


Brannstrom was easily a top-25 prospect at the time of the Stone trade. That was a largely agree on consensus. Lysell is scoring at barely over a point per game in the WHL in his D+1 season on an okay team. 34th in the league in P/PG and 73rd in the league in total points.

If you genuinely think that there’s a comparison to be made between the two you need to take the homer glasses off and re-think how you’re evaluating prospects. You always make the same flawed argument.
Feb. 28, 2022 at 8:50 p.m.
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Brannstrom was easily a top-25 prospect at the time of the Stone trade. That was a largely agree on consensus. Lysell is scoring at barely over a point per game in the WHL in his D+1 season on an okay team. 34th in the league in P/PG and 73rd in the league in total points.

If you genuinely think that there’s a comparison to be made between the two you need to take the homer glasses off and re-think how you’re evaluating prospects. You always make the same flawed argument.


I do. Know what I’m not doing? Just looking at points per game in junior hockey and making my decision based solely on that. Lysell is regarded in that same category as brannstrom.
Feb. 28, 2022 at 9:00 p.m.
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I do. Know what I’m not doing? Just looking at points per game in junior hockey and making my decision based solely on that..


Well of course you're not doing that cause when stats aren't useful to helping along your narrative, they don't matter. Stats aside, he's a good player but not even a top prospect. There's a reason he dropped to 21OVR from hovering around ~10OVR earlier in 2021.

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Lysell is regarded in that same category as brannstrom.


according to who?
Feb. 28, 2022 at 9:11 p.m.
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Well of course you're not doing that cause when stats aren't useful to helping along your narrative, they don't matter. Stats aside, he's a good player but not even a top prospect. There's a reason he dropped to 21OVR from hovering around ~10OVR earlier in 2021.



according to who?


Plenty of analysts have him pretty high, as frequently happens when theres stupid questions about coming to NA/leaving a European team pre-draft. Most mock drafts had him going between 11-17. He slipped, that happens. Kinda where brannstrom was taken. If you want to make an argument that brannstrom was underrated, or lysell is overrated, whatever. If you want to make the argument that he’s more than a 1st, and debrusk different, you can just save your time. I don’t have much interest in wasting time reading that.
Feb. 28, 2022 at 9:52 p.m.
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I wouldn’t give up a 2022 1st just to bury a few players. Moore and Wagner are still serviceable on some teams.
Mar. 1, 2022 at 3:12 a.m.
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I dont think so. He's showing incredible growth in all parts of his game and even in the SHL he was showing how relentless he can be on both ends of the ice. He didn't always get results, but the team he was on wasn't very good. He's one of the better offensive prospects Boston has had in some time.


dude a PPG average at the CHL is basically the prereq for even getting a shot at the AHL level.
Don't worry I get it, the BOS prospect pool sucks, so does the team I follow.
But I'm just tempering this idea out that somehow an average late 1st rounder is somehow un moveable.
There is only 1 way in which those guys become unmovable. And that is when you say, we are looking to the future and don't want to make a move.
In other words, I want to trade but not give anything up.
I don't think you get Hertl on a trade like that.
Having said that, like I said, I think it's an over pay on him. 1st, 1st prospect, and 2nd... is a lot to pay on a rental. I don't think it's in BOS best interst.
But it's not because the prospect is unmovable. He's an average producing prospect at this point, if they are looking to bring in a major piece, I'd say they would have him as an option..
Mar. 1, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
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dude a PPG average at the CHL is basically the prereq for even getting a shot at the AHL level.
Don't worry I get it, the BOS prospect pool sucks, so does the team I follow.
But I'm just tempering this idea out that somehow an average late 1st rounder is somehow un moveable.
There is only 1 way in which those guys become unmovable. And that is when you say, we are looking to the future and don't want to make a move.
In other words, I want to trade but not give anything up.
I don't think you get Hertl on a trade like that.
Having said that, like I said, I think it's an over pay on him. 1st, 1st prospect, and 2nd... is a lot to pay on a rental. I don't think it's in BOS best interst.
But it's not because the prospect is unmovable. He's an average producing prospect at this point, if they are looking to bring in a major piece, I'd say they would have him as an option..


If it's a major piece, not a 1 or two year rental, then yes he's movable. He's not Owen Power or anyone like that. However, they shouldn't move him for a rental. Move Beecher or someone like that.
Mar. 1, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
dude a PPG average at the CHL is basically the prereq for even getting a shot at the AHL level.
Don't worry I get it, the BOS prospect pool sucks, so does the team I follow.
But I'm just tempering this idea out that somehow an average late 1st rounder is somehow un moveable.
There is only 1 way in which those guys become unmovable. And that is when you say, we are looking to the future and don't want to make a move.
In other words, I want to trade but not give anything up.
I don't think you get Hertl on a trade like that.
Having said that, like I said, I think it's an over pay on him. 1st, 1st prospect, and 2nd... is a lot to pay on a rental. I don't think it's in BOS best interst.
But it's not because the prospect is unmovable. He's an average producing prospect at this point, if they are looking to bring in a major piece, I'd say they would have him as an option..


If it's a major piece, not a 1 or two year rental, then yes he's movable. He's not Owen Power or anyone like that. However, they shouldn't move him for a rental. Move Beecher or someone like that.
 
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