would you trade Chychrun for a late 1st?

No from Colorado. A contender is not gonna be interested in trading a top 4 defenseman for futures unless it's a ridiculous package.

Byram - Girard is the Avs second pairing when Bo gets healthy.

No I wouldn't and I totally see your point.. I was just thinking of it as a jumping off point. Like is there a framework here or a deal to be had with the idea that a team that already rolls out Makar - Toews - Byram really wouldn't "need" Girard.

That's fair, and I'm not suggesting Girard isn't terrific or in the Avs future plans. Just wanted to explore the idea of him since he has term and doesn't have trade protection as someone who the Coyotes could be interested in and Avs could you use to get cap space to chare Giroux etc

Girard is a guy that should be on your radar as a potential trade acquisition, but the timing isn't right quite yet. He's a huge part of the team at the moment.

In a couple years when (hopefully) Byram is healthy and seasoned AND at least one of Colorado's prospects (Barron, Helleson, Behrens) are ready for prime time then they could move Girard. I don't see it happening until after next year though.

Travis Boyd wouldn't play in MIN. So with all due respect, easy no. Minnesota also doesn't need to dump rask.

Literally that doesn’t even start the conversation. Chychrun is better than Seth Jones and Girard is as good as Chychrun. You’re talking the equivalent of 3 1st rd picks for COL to be compelled to even listen. Girard is metrics monster, that produces 30pts season in season out without PP1 time, who is at most the 59th highest paid dman for the next half decade which is all in his 20’s. I mean it’s ridiculous that you would even think that starts the conversation. Epically bad. Awful. In fact the suggestion sucks.

Personally, I'd love Larsson and I think that's a fair price. Realistically though, I don't see the Pens going after any bottom-six players. We have a super loaded bottom six and if the Pens pursue a forward, it will likely be a way to upgrade from Kapanen.

His term and cost effective contract make him a basic non-option.

He was the big piece in Colorado's offer for Eichel, so I could see the Avs moving him for a bigger fish, but it would have to be someone of that caliber.

He's on pace for 43 points this season. He was on pace for 54 (over 82 games) points last season and 40 the season prior.

Honestly, not an Avs fan, but if I have Makar, Toews, Girard and Byram, I'm adding to the roster, not subtracting. When a Byram extension becomes a thing, maybe I look at something, or if Barron/Helleson aren't moved and show that they're capable of taking over for him, sure, I'd consider it...but at $5 mil for the next bajillion years, a Girard return *should* be huge.

Then what should start the conversation that also makes sense for the Coyotes? You're not moving any of your own 1st rounders, you're not moving any of your top prospects. Chychrun doesn't make sense since that's a lateral move, so where would a conversation start?

Girard is great, specifically in transition, and he does a good job of producing primary points, so again I'm not suggesting he's bad or just making 5 foot passes to forwards and then doing nothing.. but he also struggles to defend the rush and in his own zone. He was neutralized significantly in the VGK series last year so he's not perfect.

Also the idea didn't start and end with the Yotes, the idea was good you get good value for Girard from the Yotes and in addition to that value use the freed up cap space to make other upgrades. Suggesting there isn't even a conversation to be had is pretty childish

I think you could make a compelling argument that Boyd is better than each of Dewar, Bjugstad, Duhaime, and at least is offensively is better than Sturm (who is admittedly a much better overall player). He's also a righty, something the Wild don't have a ton of, and he plays center, so god forbid something to happen to Ek or Gaudreau he could fill those holes. At the end of the day he's a good player on a league minimum deal and there's been reports the Wild are interested.. idk seems fair to me

Well thought out and nice try to get a ball rolling on that avs trade. Don’t think the timing works out really for either side he’s not going to suddenly make Arizona that much better so it’s kinda better to let him stay and build success with avs for now and maybe after next year can make an aggressive offer considering the quantity of picks Arizona currently has they should be in a really good spot to do it. I really like your thought process and enjoyed reading your comments good job.

Where is the report? He's not better than duhaime or bjustad. Connor dewar is a good cheap 4th liner. Russo hasn't reported anything to sat Minnesota is interested. All these players you listed are 4th liners. Duhaime us really good rookie who made team out of training camp. Bjustad is very good for 3rd / 4th line. Dewar paid his dues last year in Iowa. Wild are also signing Jack McBain and Going after Ben Myers and essentially promising them roster spots right away

that Girard trade might be now the worst one ever posted on this site

there is 0 logic behind them trading him for their own 1st back, just awful

Chychrun is the one and only player that makes sense for a Girard move. The Yotes don’t have a top 6 winger locked up long term on a team friendly deal, the Yotes don’t have a legit #1 goalie locked up long term on a team friendly deal that’s it. Look at it from COL side. Don’t need futures. Don’t need prospects. Need things that make the current roster better that make sense to move Girard for. I mean maybe Schmaltz but AZ is adding a lot. COL’s goal is to win a cup, if a move doesn’t facilitate that COL isn’t doing it.

Childish is thinking that because you want something you propose a silly offer that no team going for a cup is going to talk about it. Business negotiations start when a serious offer is made not “hey here is your 1st rd pick back give us a 24yr old top pairing dman cost controlled for the next decade” when the last dman like that traded went for 2 1st rd picks a top d prospect and a swap of picks, THEN he got a $9.5M extension. Offering a 1st isn’t a serious offer people that don’t make serious offers don’t get taken seriously.

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/02/nhl-rumors-coyotes-and-wild-talking.html

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These are make up rumors bs sites that reporters call out. Just like the lie by the fourth period

That's not even a realistic starting offer for a guy who is statistically better than Chicken-run.