Could the habs sign him

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Created by: HunterO0

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 15, 2022

Published: Mar. 15, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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McBain, Jack [Reserve List]

MIN

2022 2nd round pick (MTL)

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Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
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LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$81,500,000	$73,622,891	$597,561	$1,475,000	$7,877,109

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Poehling, Ryan $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Lehkonen, Artturi $1,150,000$1,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dauphin, Laurent $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Perreault, Mathieu $950,000$950,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Pitlick, Rem $917,831$917,831 LW, RW UFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden $880,833$880,833 G RFA - 1
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Montembeault, Samuel $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1
Schueneman, Corey $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 4
	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4
	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 2
	Pitlick, Tyler $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 1
	Clague, Kale $761,250$761,250 LD/RD RFA - 1
	Hammond, Andrew $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1

Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.

GMs

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This would be horrible
Maybe if Chiarot brings a 2nd + Prospect and we trade that 2nd vs McBain, but not the 33ish-35thish OA pick

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Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.

justaBoss

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Maybe. I'd wait until summer for that chance though. Seems like he's not willing to sign with Wild so I wouldn't bother spending much on him. Eventually Wild is forced to lower their asking price if no one is willing to pay for a maybe.

Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:53 p.m.

DucharmetheDOMinator

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Habs don't do that.. maybe Weber 1 for 1

Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:54 p.m.

ColonelX

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They certainly could but should they?

Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:54 p.m.

Caerii

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

Habs don't do that.. maybe Weber 1 for 1

Why would the Wild do that?

Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:55 p.m.

DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: Caerii

Why would the Wild do that?

It's for cap space. It's complicated. All wild fans pretty much have said they would do that

Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.

Caerii

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

It's for cap space. It's complicated. All wild fans pretty much have said they would do that

Yeah it doesn't work, it doesn't help with cap space, and most Wild fans I've seen have understood that there's no reason for the Wild to acquire Weber.

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Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.

DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: Caerii

Yeah it doesn't work, it doesn't help with cap space, and most Wild fans I've seen have understood that there's no reason for the Wild to acquire Weber.

You don't know about cap space and ltir, then, lol.

Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.

Caerii

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

You don't know about cap space and ltir, then, lol.

Oh okay lol

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Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.

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HunterO0

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I was just asking if they would sign him. The asking price for Mcbain is a second so if chariot gets a 2 second in his trade i would trade that second round but was just asking around

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Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:59 p.m.

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Shire

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Bet he only wants to sign with NYR or Boston

Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:00 p.m.

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DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: HunterO0

I was just asking if they would sign him. The asking price for Mcbain is a second so if chariot gets a 2 second in his trade i would trade that second round but was just asking around

They probably would.
But I'd rather wait till free agency or get him for Weber rather than trading a high 2nd.

Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:00 p.m.

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

You don't know about cap space and ltir, then, lol.

You need to understand Weber 7.8M counts during the summer and can only be placed on LTIR at the beginning of the year so they need to be cap compliant before putting Weber on LTIR (I think 😅)

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Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:00 p.m.

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Caerii

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

You don't know about cap space and ltir, then, lol.

How about you explain to me how it works then, and how it helps the Wild with their cap situation?

Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.

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DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quote:

Here's my proof,

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Oh okay lol

@caerii

Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:04 p.m.

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DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: Shire

Bet he only wants to sign with NYR or Boston

He's from Ontario....

Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.

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Joblow

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Quoting: GMs

You need to understand Weber 7.8M counts during the summer and can only be placed on LTIR at the beginning of the year so they need to be cap compliant before putting Weber on LTIR (I think 😅)

You can had 10% on the 81,5 millions cap space during the summer. So that gave team around 89 millions.

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Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:08 p.m.

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Caerii

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

Quote:

Here's my proof,

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Oh okay lol

caerii

Since I can only assume you got the idea from Friedman, who himself didn't know what he was talking about, here's his #1 thought from March 9th:

Quoting: Elliotte

1. A lot of feedback to our podcast bit about Shea Weber’s contract and whether or not it would make sense for Minnesota. The answer, according to several capologists consulted for this blog, is no — and don’t expect the Wild to do it. “You do not want to be in long-term injury, over the cap, for years and years,” one said. “There’s nothing good about that.” It prevents you from accruing space, robs you of flexibility. (I didn’t realize you can’t trade for a player on LTIR without activating him first. That would be problematic for most.) There is also the question of whether or not Minnesota could put together a full roster before putting Weber’s contract on long-term at the start of the season. So, what seemed like a creative idea was anything but that.

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Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:09 p.m.

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Quoting: Caerii

Here's my proof,

Quote:

Oh okay lol

caerii

Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:19 p.m.

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Wildnochance

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

caerii

Since I can only assume you got the idea from Friedman, who himself didn't know what he was talking about, here's his #1 thought from March 9th:[/quote]

The latest I saw, he said it makes sense. Sorry lol[/quote]

No, Russo who covers wild said it was a mistake. He even said Guerin doesn't have any interest in having Weber's cap hold for 4 years. Friedman himself changed his mind the day after

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Mar. 16, 2022 at 7:11 a.m.

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futurehofer

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Quoting: justaBoss

We've apparently gotten calls about him from 2/3 of the league. We're letting his advisor talk to all the teams and figure out where he'd be willing to sign so he can give Guerin a list of teams to negotiate with. There definitely will be suitors willing to pay that price.

Mar. 16, 2022 at 9:30 a.m.

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justaBoss

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Quoting: futurehofer

I know there's been interested teams, who wouldn't be? McBain looks like a promising player.

Still, what I said isn't exactly incorrect.

I'd just personally hesitate moving a high piece for a complete what if/maybe scenario. Sounds like shooting myself in the foot.

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