Keller is a PPG on one of the worst teams in the league, he is more offensively gifted than literally any player on the entire habs roster by quite a long shot. That offer doesn't come remotely close

With all due to respect to Montreal, if you want to pry out Keller from ARI, it's going to cost you Suzuki or Caufield plus something.

Keller's a fine player, but in all honesty he doesn't move the needle for this team either way. Too much of the same of what they already have. Now Crouse would be a different story

They’d get a player who other than this season, has outscored Keller, a very good defensive prospect and a 1st round pick + and extra 3rd. Could even add Mysak type prospect as well but the value is close.

Keller himself is over performing his xGF/60 because of his super high shooting % which is unsustainable. He also stinks defensively. 24 years old so not in the time table for Arizonas rebuild and he’s being paid a lot for a while which a poor franchise doesn’t want.

Habs don't wanna ruin asessts to acquire keller. Not anything against him, but it's not the best time for habs to do this

Suzuki or Caufield for a player who is having his first good season, over-performing his xGF/60, having an unsustainable shooting % and plays bad defence. Then add his rough contract.

You don’t get a player like Suzuki or Caufield for that.

This is the best time when our prospects have their highest value so far. The extra 1st rounder lets us use one while still having a selection

The answer is no. I’d rather have Keller than anything in that package

Who is this player that has outscored Keller up until this year? Not Drouin. Are you referring to washed up 32 year old Hoffman? We just going to pretend Keller isn't 23? Romanov is fine but not some high end prospect, and the 1st is quite late (24th at earliest)

You could also make the same argument about his xGA/60 vs his GA/60. And again he's 23 (not 24), how is that not within their rebuild period? And if he's not how is he within Montreal's rebuild period by the same logic? He's not great defensively but he's not Hoffman levels bad defensively.

Just admit that your valuation was way off

This is so far from the truth, He has been top 2 in his teams production every season of his career except last year. All you are doing is attempting to undermine him to justify your bad offer. If you think he's so bad then why are you trading for him in the first place

Because he sniped one on the power play tonight, he knows he’s good, is a ppg player, and he wants him for cheap

Shocked it’s not Chariot for Keller straight up

Speaking of underrated Yotes players, if Palat prices himself out this summer what would it cost to acquire Crouse's RFA rights, and would taking on Seabrook's contract after his bonus is paid be of interest for reaching the floor (He would only be owed 2.2M in actual money over his remaining 2 years). I believe Crouse could thrive playing on Point's and Kuch's line while also acting as a deterrent to roughing them up and getting them injured

Crouse is turning into a really solid power forward, I believe he’s up to 5 goals in his past 4 games with his goal tonight. He is solid even strength, kills penalties, and is good at tipping and screens. He’s going to cost a lot. Bill Armstrong put a 1st and good prospect price on him, and even then idk if he does it. They might be interested in seabrook’s rights, but I doubt it is worked in with a crouse trade. Perfect Tampa player imo, but he’s not replaceable right now for us

Would a top ~20 goalie prospect in Alnefelt + 2023 1st be a good base? I think for Seabrook's rights that's more to help them reach the floor (only there for 2 years too) as well as it opens up Tampa's ability to accrue cap space again. Also unlike Weber who apparently will cost assets to acquire Seabrook would/should not

To me, yes that’s a very tempting offer. If the yotes get slafkovsky I think they’d take that, but only in that scenario. He’s a very hard player to replace with his size and skill. Maybe throw in a 3rd and yeah it’s a deal

Arizona easily declines. Romanov isn't good. Drouin contract isn't good and a late first lol

Keller is the Yotes best player this year, and has been consistently one of their best players. He is just now tapping into his full potential, but I think that he still has some untapped potential left in him. Plus he is signed for 6 years after this year, so he would be with the Yotes throughout their rebuild. There are a couple players on the Yotes roster that with how they are playing I don’t see them being trade. That includes Keller, Shmaltz, Crouse, Chychrun, and Vejmelka.

Arizona will block your number instantly with that offer. If the Yotes were to trade Keller to the Habs, the starting piece would be either Suzuki or Caufield, and the Habs would still have to add a lot more to even make Arizona consider.

Suzuki or Caufield need to be included or else this trade doesn't make sense for Arizona

my personal favorite type of ACGM is the "I'm going to the comments to absolutely trash the guy I built this ACGM around to make my underpayment seem fair"